Re: OCP Exams & Self Test Software

From: D Parent <dgparent_at_nb.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:13:10 -0300
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Well I sure am glad to find out the industry consensus is that the = Certification is useless after all the time and effort I have devoted to = passing the first 3 Exams. When I first inquired about this back in = February no-one in this newsgroup seemed to have any negative comments, = unfortunately I have been in Bosnia since then and have not been able to = keep up. Well at least I have, or will have, a piece of paper saying I = am Certified. It seems to me that this would be a good start towards = finding employment at the entry level any way. Between my certification = and my use of Oracle 7 Server for WinNT on my personal computer I hope = someone gives me a chance to prove my worth. Hopefully the MS newsgroup = will be more forth coming with regards to the worth of the MSDBA = certification.
D Parent

Paul Apollo <papollo_at_abacus.bates.edu> wrote in message = news:37B86F3E.FA694994_at_abacus.bates.edu... This is precisely the reason I asked if the exams and certification = were both worth pursuing. The consensus is that unless you're an HR = type looking to hire Oracle people, the certification is pretty much = useless. I received many notes off-group relating the same sentiment. = Thanks for the warning.=20
Martin wrote:=20

Your lack of experience - yet ability to pass the test , is not a = reflection=20

on the=20
quality of the STSware exams - more a reflection of the low level at = which=20

    the=20
    certification exams are pitched.=20
    I speak as a certified DBA and Developer with over 13years = experience of=20

Oracle=20
in real life! I make no slight on your personal ability - only on = the=20

farcical nature of=20
the Oracle Certifications - if they are to be taken seriously in the =

industry, they need=20
to be seriously re-visited by those responsible for creating them.=20

Hope your listening ORACLE.=20

    --=20
    Regards=20
    Martin Jones=20

    --------------------------------------------=20
    OCP - DBA=20

OCP - Application Developer=20

    ---------------------------------------------=20

Doug Parent <dgparent_at_nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message=20 news:7osjjk$dla$1_at_garnet.nbnet.nb.ca...=20
> I passed the first 2 exams in the Oracle DBA tract using the =
Oracle=20

> Certification Guide and the STSWare Practice questions. Before =
February of=20

> this year I had never even heard of Oracle and had, and still =
don't have,=20

> any practical experience using it, I think this speaks volumes for =
the=20

> STSWare practice questions they are worth every penny.=20
> Van Messner <vmessner_at_netaxis.com> wrote in message=20
> news:xLpr3.3292$RD5.90579_at_typ11...=20
> > I have used the NETG/Oracle CDs. The sample questions on the =
disks are=20

> very=20
> > like the questions on the tests. There are four CDs - one for =
each of=20

the=20
> > exams. I have an Oracle 7 set for sale at $1100. A new set =
from Oracle=20

> > runs around $2500.=20
> >=20
> > Van=20
> >=20
> > Sunny <sunnyj_at_home.com> wrote in message=20
> > news:U03r3.18296$B5.163467_at_news1.rdc1.bc.home.com...=20
> > > Is there anyone who has used the Self Test Software for =
practice exams=20

> for=20
> > > OCP.=20
> > > Which one have you used the DBA or Developer practice exams?=20
> > > What was your experience with them=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> >=20

>=20
>

   =20
  --=20
  Paul Apollo=20
  Bates College Information Services=20
  207-786-6430=20
  papollo_at_abacus.bates.edu=20
   =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well I sure am glad to find out the =

industry=20
consensus is that the Certification is useless after all the time and = effort I=20
have devoted to passing the first 3 Exams. When I first inquired = about this=20
back in February no-one in this newsgroup seemed to have any negative = comments,=20
unfortunately I have been in Bosnia since then and have not been able to = keep=20
up. Well at least I have, or will have, a piece of paper saying I am = Certified.=20
It seems to me that this would be a good start towards finding = employment at the=20
entry level any way. Between my certification and my use of Oracle 7 = Server for=20
WinNT on my personal computer I hope someone gives me a chance to prove = my=20
worth.  Hopefully the MS newsgroup will be more forth coming with = regards=20
to the worth of the MSDBA certification.</DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>D Parent</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20

style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>Paul Apollo <<A=20
 =
href=3D"mailto:papollo_at_abacus.bates.edu">papollo_at_abacus.bates.edu</A>>= wrote=20
 in message <A=20
 =
href=3D"news:37B86F3E.FA694994_at_abacus.bates.edu">news:37B86F3E.FA694994_at_a= bacus.bates.edu</A>...</DIV>This=20
 is precisely the reason I asked if the exams and certification were = both worth=20
 pursuing.  The consensus is that unless you're an HR type looking = to hire=20
 Oracle people, the certification is pretty much useless.  I = received many=20
 notes off-group relating the same sentiment.  Thanks for the = warning.=20

Martin wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">Your lack of experience - yet ability to = pass the=20

test , is not a reflection on the quality of the STSware = exams -=20

more a reflection of the low level at which the = certification exams=20

are pitched.=20
I speak as a certified DBA and Developer with over 13years = experience of=20

Oracle in real life!  I make no slight on your personal = ability=20

only on the farcical nature of the Oracle Certifications - = if they=20 are to be taken seriously in the industry, they need to be = seriously=20 re-visited by those responsible for creating them.=20 Hope your listening ORACLE.=20 -- Regards Martin Jones=20 -------------------------------------------- OCP - DBA = OCP -=20 Application Developer = ---------------------------------------------=20 Doug Parent <dgparent_at_nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message = <A=20 = href=3D"news:7osjjk$dla$1_at_garnet.nbnet.nb.ca">news:7osjjk$dla$1_at_garnet.nb= net.nb.ca</A>...=20 > I passed the first 2 exams in the Oracle DBA tract using = the Oracle=20 > Certification Guide and the STSWare Practice questions. = Before=20 February of > this year I had never even heard of Oracle and = had, and=20 still don't have, > any practical experience using it, I = think this=20 speaks volumes for the > STSWare practice questions they are = worth=20 every penny. > Van Messner <vmessner_at_netaxis.com> wrote = in=20 message > <A=20 = href=3D"news:xLpr3.3292$RD5.90579_at_typ11">news:xLpr3.3292$RD5.90579_at_typ11<= /A>...=20 > > I have used the NETG/Oracle CDs.  The sample = questions on=20 the disks are > very > > like the questions on the=20 tests.  There are four CDs - one for each of the > = >=20 exams.  I have an Oracle 7 set for sale at $1100.  A new = set from=20 Oracle > > runs around $2500. > > > > = Van=20 > > > > Sunny <sunnyj_at_home.com> wrote in = message=20 > > <A=20 = href=3D"news:U03r3.18296$B5.163467_at_news1.rdc1.bc.home.com">news:U03r3.182= 96$B5.163467_at_news1.rdc1.bc.home.com</A>...=20 > > > Is there anyone who has used the Self Test = Software for=20 practice exams > for > > > OCP. > > = > Which=20 one have you used the DBA or Developer practice exams? > > = >=20 What was your experience with them > > > > > = >=20 [Quoted] > > > > > ></BLOCKQUOTE>  =

-- Paul Apollo Bates College Information Services = 207-786-6430=20
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