Re: Oracle Books

From: Paul Dorsey <>
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:37:39 GMT
Message-ID: <TPdq3.84684$>

Of course you can learn on the job, but note that Ann asked about learning on her own.
I have done consulting with organizations that bought a raft of Oracle products, paid for training, and then tried to build their systems. Those systems invariably crashed and burned.

People I have hired from inexperienced Oracle shops may have worked in the Oracle environment for a year or two but have come up with crazy ways of doing things.

The Oracle environment is mature and there exists a culture of best practices that are every bit as important as knowing the syntax of a command. I can point to numerous examples of people/organizations trying to learn this environment in a vacume that crashed and burned. Perhaps you are the brilliant exception to this rule that can reinvent an entire industry's worth of collective wisdom on your own.

Bottom line, I do not believe that it is possible to become a qualified Oracle professional in a vacume.

Paul Dorsey
Dulcian, Inc.
212 595 7223
Suresh Bhat wrote in message <01bede9b$d4783f20$a504fa80_at_mndnet>...

>Contrary to what Paul Dorsey said in his post, I think you can learn the
>basics of Oracle as long as you have access to some Oracle database and a
>couple of books that he mentioned.
>I have never taken any Oracle/UNIX/Windows or any other classes but learned
>everything on the job and by doing things and reading books.
>Now a days on MS Windows there is good help, que cards, query by examples
>and plain examples available on any of the Oracle products in on line help.
> A case in point is Forms 5.0.
>Most Oracle jobs are in Forms design and developing. At any shop you need
>1 DBA and posssibly
>10 to 15 developers and most of them would be developing forms and/or
>reports. Even though I am a DBA and have come through the application
>development side I still enjoy forms development.
>I would postpone DBA stuff until couple of years later down the road when
>you get familiar with Oracle.
>For right now I would suggest concentrate on SQl, SQL*Plus, PL/SQL and
>If you ask me which 1 Oracle book I would recommend for Forms, SQL, PL/SQL
>etc. That would be
> Oracle Developer/2000 Forms. The Practitoner's Guide by Albert Lulushi
>Although, it is heavily oriented towards forms design, it also does a good
>job on SQL and PL/SQL for beginners and it costs less than $45 at
> You can also browse it at Barnes and Noble.
>Good luck !!!
>Suresh bhat
>Ann <> wrote in article
>> I am thinking of learning Oracle on my own.
>> Are there any good Oracle books that teach how to program with Oracle?
>> (for beginners)
>> What tools would I need to use to program in Oracle?
>> Ann
Received on Thu Aug 05 1999 - 12:37:39 CEST

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