Re: Designer 1.2 and Oracle 805/734

Hi, Gerrit-Jan!

Gert-Jan Mellema wrote:

> Hello,
>
> The Oracle y2k statement only states that Oracle8(i) and Oracle734 are
> compliant (any other version they don't want to talk about anymore).

Actually, all pre-7.3.4 versions are desupported asof 31/12/1999. In order to stop questions about Y2K compliancy on desuported versions Oracle now states that all of these versions are not Y2K compliant. This sure makes people want to upgrade, just what Oracle was aiming for.

> Since
> we would like to use a compliant database version, we have plans to migrate
> some old 723 databases to 734 or preferably 805. One of these databases is
> used for Designer 1.2. We still have some critical complex applications in
> this designer environment, and migrating to Designer 1.3.2. or higher is not
> an issue.

Not an option, I assume? If not an issue, why not upgrade to 1.3.2?

> One application we finished only 2 months ago.
> So i asked Oracle if Designer 1.2 could work with Oracle805. They answered
> that the only certified database version for this Designer version is 713 or
> 714 (!!).
> Supported by this very helpful information (we only have been using 723)

Do you understand the meaning of 'certified' (as opposed to 'supported')? Certified means all regression tests have been executed against a particular version. Supported means these tests have not been executed in full (or not at all), but no problems are anticipated. Did you actually ask support whether 7.3.4 was 'not supported' (usually meaning severe bugs are known with that version)?

> i just tried it with 734 and 805. With some little testing (creating a module,
>
> generating a form, etc, little things) i only received an error message
> after generating server scripts. The scripts itself where ok.

Did you try to make a backup of your application? That's sure to fail! Des2K 1.2 is a 7.1 product, and it comes with 7.1 tools and utils. Any use of these against later versions is likely to fail. Import/Export is an example known to me, but there are workarounds. If these are acceptable to you - fine, but remember: in Oracle's view, it is not certified!

> So my question is: does anybody have experience with Designer 1.2 on a
> Oracle805 or Oracle734 database and would like to share this?
>
> Please let me know.
>
> Gert-Jan Mellema
> Niemeyer
> The Netherlands

Why don't you just stay with 7.2 and use it as a repository server only? As Designer itself does no date arithmatic towards the database, it's Y2K compliant.

Finally, to answer your question: I seem to recall that support in The Netherlands
run versions of Case and Des2k up to V1.2 against 7.3 or even 7.4. Ask them!

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Met vriendelijke groet,
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Frank van Bortel
Technical consultant Oracle
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