Re: Anyone Actually using Dev/2000 Server / Web Enabled forms ?

Tilen,

are you going to deploy your 30/40 forms for use with web browsers internaly (intranet) or will you deploy them using the good reliable client/server
technology.

What was your experience with WebDB ? we have only started testing/evaluating
this week , but it 'looks' good anyway.

Cheers

Noel

Tilen Skraba <tiskraba_at_my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7iljnt$5f1$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com...
> Well, it seems we have same experience.
> We DON'T have any of forms deployed yet... Just the test ones.
> We are waiting for contract to be signed then we'll start migration
> of PL/SQL modules into forms.
> Our aplication consists of some 30-40 forms, some simple, some complex
> with master/detail, tab pages, complex controls... The aplication is
> not public accesible, as it would be to problematic for users to make
> it work (different JVM-s). For public accessible aplication you should
> consider different option.
>
> If you only have 5-6 forms to be deployed, you should perhaps
> consider PL/SQL or the new JWeb cartridge (OAS 4.0.8).
>
> If you want/need more info please e-mail me.
>
> Tilen
>
>
>
>
> In article <mie33.4070$yr2.1774_at_news.indigo.ie>,
> "Noel O'Brien" <noel_at_paragon.ie> wrote:
> > Thanks Tilen for the info...
> >
> > we too have skipped 1.4 and 1.5 and gone to 2.1 (forms 5).
> >
> > We have been doing prototypes with static html pages
> > calling or launching our form using the latest Jinitiator.
> >
> > This plugin is downloaded once and then things speed up
> > a bit. we have been told by Oracle that the new MS IE 5
> > now support the running of Oracle Forms 5 without
> > the need for Jinitiator. Oracle said Microsoft seem to
> > have moved closer to the java used by Oracle.
> >
> > anyway...
> >
> > We are only using may 5 or 6 forms that are launched by
> > users hitting a html page.
> >
> > Have you got many Forms running like this ? or have you just
> > looked at it like we did.
> >
> > We are finding it very hard to find a reference site or even
> > any live or production installation of this 'web enabled forms'
> >
> > We too have used Plsql generated by Designer to deploy
> > sites but as you say it seems too complex.
> >
> > We have only this week started to look at WebDB.
> >
> > Thanks for your input.
> >
> > Noel
> >
> > Tilen Skraba <tiskraba_at_my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > news:7ijnkf$pij$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Here's my experience....
> > >
> > > Don't use Developer 2.0, as it is as slow as Developer
> > > 1.4W or 1.5.
> > >
> > > The only usable version is 2.1 (i didn't test 6.0).
> > >
> > > The speed over 2.1 is good eneugh for modem connections (22.800)
> > > It is stable and accessible.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't use PL/SQL procedures or WebDB for any complex
> aplications.
> > > We have one PL/SQL application deployed over internet and because of
> > > it's complexity we are moving it to Developer server technology.
> > > It is easier to maintain...
> > >
> > > Currently we are in the middle of development of JDeveloper/JBuilder
> > > project. There are some considerations here allso. Time to develop
> > > application in JDeveloper is several times longer than in Developer
> > > as it is "just" 3GL. You don't get any perfomance increase, it
> doesn't
> > > have "easy to develop" middle tier...
> > >
> > >
> > > Tilen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In article <LeW23.3902$yr2.1779_at_news.indigo.ie>,
> > > "Noel O'Brien" <noel_at_paragon.ie> wrote:
> > > > Can anyone offer any info on the experiences with
> > > > Developer/2000 Server 2.x ?
> > > >
> > > > We looked at Forms 4.5 a year ago when you could web
> > > > enable your forms and deploy them on a web server
> > > > using static html pages and the Jinitiator
> > > >
> > > > But is anyone actually using this technology ?
> > > >
> > > > Having problems finding people (other than Oracle people)
> > > > who actually use this rather than Jdeveloper or Dynamic html
> pages.
> > > >
> > > > We are weighting up the pros cons etc for Developer / Jdeveloper /
> > > Webdb
> > > > or using Designer to generate Web Applications
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any input
> > > >
> > > > Noel
> > > >
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Received on Fri May 28 1999 - 11:07:50 CEST