Re: aidev Monitoring Plugin v12. for Oracle Enterprise Manager 12c & 13c - now available

From: Mladen Gogala <>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 01:55:47 +0000 (UTC)
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 17:44:29 +0000, jeremy wrote:

> Do you regard AWS RDS as "the future" and the future which, discounting
> any persoanl bias regarding employment for Oracle DBAs, is "a good
> thing" - or is this a commodity, untuned, untunable except by the £££
> (for I am in the UK) approach - but which will succeed because it's
> simple?

[Quoted] Jeremy, RDS and DBaaS offering in general are meant for consumer companies who do not have neither stuff nor capability to operate an Oracle database and want only to run off the shelf application for taxes, general ledger or warehouse. Those are generally smaller to medium companies with relatively simple application structure, usually something akin to the proverbial "Ma's and Pa's Grocery Store". That is a database equivalent of an Android tablet: consumer electronic, very limited in its capabilities, but extremely useful an practical, as long as you are using it for web surfing, email and mobile banking. The moment you attempt to write a Python script on an Adroid tablet, you will run into unsurmountable problems. RDS and other DBaaS offerings in general are the same thing: you can get your DB installed, backed up and maintained by the provider, run your application of choice, all withoud an expensive IT staff. Specialization has always been a trend in any technology. Companies used to have huge IT departments, with head counts in hundreds, developing their own applications, having their own system and database administrators, developers, project managers, service and helpdesk personnel and, last but not least, IT security personnel. COTS applications like Salesforce, SAP, Oracle EBS, EPIC and alike have cut down the need for the mammoth IT departments. And technical specialists were hard to come by and very well paid, which was straining the company budgets. I live in New York City. If a company can afford not to rent the entire floor of a building in midtown Manhattan, just to house the IT department, that is a very significant saving, not to mention the savings on the payroll side. Companies like Dominoes, Dunkin' Donuts, Macy's or Walgreens can go back to what they do, and that's not IT. RDS, off the shelf applications and remote DBA companies like Pythian or F3 Partners are the solution.

> As a slight aside, I heard that Oracle SE on Oracle Cloud (PaaS)
> includes TDE (whereas you need EE and some option if hosted elsewhere).
> I also heard that Oracle for RDS is "different" in some ways to the
> regular Oracle. Keen to find out from experts if this is a commercial
> thing or technical.
> --
> jeremy

[Quoted] I have tested Oracle for RDS extensively, there is nothing different about it. You only don't get to interact with the machine it's running on, that's all.

Mladen Gogala
Database Consultant
Received on Sun Nov 12 2017 - 02:55:47 CET

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