Re: Instant DBA

From: joel garry <joel-garry_at_home.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <e269a732-58d3-429f-9192-e99af9470c85_at_googlegroups.com>


On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:52:02 PM UTC-7, Mark D Powell wrote:
> On Monday, April 28, 2014 9:05:21 AM UTC-4, ddf wrote:

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> > I cannot count the number of candidates who thought 'OCP' spelled "GOD" with respect to being an Oracle DBA. I, too, have fielded a number of ridiculous answers to serious questions and, yes, I truly wish I had written them down. Yes, Oracle Corporation opened the door back with 7.3 but I do remember a requirement for certification that stated no less than 5 years of field experience was required to take the tests. It was an effort to recognize those who worked in the trenches and didn't possess an IT degree as Oracle professionals. Soon afterwards it became a 'game' of Oracle coursework and passing the tests with no requirement whatsoever of actual experience. This is where we are today, which is why the OCM program was started to 'prove' a candidate KNOWS what he or she is doing. It's still a game, however, of money and time, not of experience. Even the OCM 'exams' can be cheated through, I expect, using the infamous 'brain dumps' which Oracle does consider as cheating (how many 'cheaters' Oracle has 'defrocked', if any, is a mystery).
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> > How can one be an 'Oracle Certified Professional' if one has no job? Most of these 'OCP's' have no experience with the database and have never worked in the industry, period, much less as a DBA. Yet the ARE OCP (Oracle says so) which does a grave disservice to those of us who have spend decades in the trenches.
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> > I agree with Mladen that these rampant spam-vertisements, made possible by Google Groups and their policy to allow posting via email, should be ignored. We can't stop them no matter what we do -- complaining to Google Groups by labeling them as SPAM does no good as we still get this crap in bucket loads. I long for the days of deja-news, when an account was required for posting privileged. Alas those days are gone for good.

Apparently the google groups complaint procedure merely hides it from the one complaining. Totally missing the point of many eyeballs.

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> > A Swedish saying that I particularly like is "The best helping hand you will find is at the end of your own arm." Modern day OCPs don't realize or understand this and expect others to give them the answers so that they, too, can become OCPs. These grist mills of exam prep feed this mentality and make it grow and fester, undermining the accomplishments of those who, like us, have WORKED to get where we are. The quest for the 'almighty dollar' wins again, and the rest of us lose mightily because of it.

You only lose if you put yourself in competition with it.

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> Look on the bright side. If you ever change jobs you are likely to be coming in to replace and clean-up from an 'instant' DBA. Just think how much fun that will be!
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Been there, great fun.

Good rant, Mladen. https://community.oracle.com/thread/3552034

jg

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