Re: The Revenge of the Geeks
From: BGB <cr88192_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:21:24 -0600
Message-ID: <kdnvk2$i8v$1_at_news.albasani.net>
On 1/22/2013 11:33 PM, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> In article
> <f803af84-fa9a-456b-a140-5a2a3b3ae84b_at_k4g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> Ramon F Herrera <ramon_at_conexus.net> wrote:
>
>> Oracle has getting a lot of attacks.
>>
>> "A close look at how Oracle installs deceptive software with Java
>> updates"
>>
>> http://www.zdnet.com/a-close-look-at-how-oracle-installs-deceptive-software-wi
>> th-java-updates-7000010038/?s_cid=e539
>>
>> I can fathom how a software like Java could end up in the hands of a
>> company like Oracle...
>>
>> -Ramon
>
> Thankfully, I don't run Windows anywhere so I don't get this. I'm
> surprised they don't bundle an AltaVista toolbar and a GIF clipart
> library from back in the days when desktop shovelware was common.
>
> Yes, it is a shame that Oracle runs Java but Sun wasn't so great at it
> either. Both pushed for high cost, high complexity "enterprise edition"
> libraries that come and go like fashion but dragged their feet on
> streamlining the language itself.
>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:21:24 -0600
Message-ID: <kdnvk2$i8v$1_at_news.albasani.net>
On 1/22/2013 11:33 PM, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> In article
> <f803af84-fa9a-456b-a140-5a2a3b3ae84b_at_k4g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> Ramon F Herrera <ramon_at_conexus.net> wrote:
>
>> Oracle has getting a lot of attacks.
>>
>> "A close look at how Oracle installs deceptive software with Java
>> updates"
>>
>> http://www.zdnet.com/a-close-look-at-how-oracle-installs-deceptive-software-wi
>> th-java-updates-7000010038/?s_cid=e539
>>
>> I can fathom how a software like Java could end up in the hands of a
>> company like Oracle...
>>
>> -Ramon
>
> Thankfully, I don't run Windows anywhere so I don't get this. I'm
> surprised they don't bundle an AltaVista toolbar and a GIF clipart
> library from back in the days when desktop shovelware was common.
>
> Yes, it is a shame that Oracle runs Java but Sun wasn't so great at it
> either. Both pushed for high cost, high complexity "enterprise edition"
> libraries that come and go like fashion but dragged their feet on
> streamlining the language itself.
>
much agreed...
the lack of "streamlining" of the core language is admittedly one of my bigger complaints about Java at present.
this is along with what few new features are added to the core language (and to the JVM) are IMO far too often via ugly hacks. Received on Wed Jan 23 2013 - 07:21:24 CET