Re: Project management melee

From: Noons <>
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 22:25:44 +1000
Message-ID: <jrhu07$hka$>

Mladen Gogala wrote,on my timestamp of 16/06/2012 1:27 AM:

> - SUN keeps losing market on the server side, now more than ever.

It was either that or lose control of Java and all the j2ee nonsense to IBM. And finally have to declare con-Fusion an expensive waste of time and space. (They just don't have the courage to do it - it'll shtick for as long as they can milk the cash cow to hide that disaster...)

> - BEA was also an expensive purchase of the player who was essentially
> already dead. Tomcat and JBoss have devoured the app server market.

Yeah. I still recall the big "push" to get everyone "certified" in OAS. I'll bet those who wasted their time and money learning and doing it are now feeling very happy they have to re-certify for BEA...

> - Jury is still out on the Exadata. They have sold quite a few pieces,
> but this is a specialized DW equipment and I don't believe that it will
> make a big splash. There are other noteworthy competitors in the
> specialized DW equipment, like Teradata, Vertica, EMC with the
> Greenplum and Netezza, among others. NoSQL products like MongoDB are
> also carving their slice of the DW niche.

It could be good if they managed to have them operational for more than a month without needing a pile of patches. Then again, I have yet to see why I should pay a fortune to get the extra I/O in our DW: it holds itself quite well in the available windows, without Exadata. Of course it'd run faster with it, but is it worth the extra effort and cost? Apparently my management thinks it isn't, so there...

> I plan on learning DB2 this year, maybe even get certified for DB2 on
> Linux. Oracle used to be a user friendly company. These days, they're
> not very likable. It's the company that only her father may love.

MSSQL here. 2005 and 2008, soon to be 2012 as well. I like DB2 but not much market for that here in Australia, unfortunately.

It's a very simple equation, really: 12 Oracle dbs, 2 DB2 dbs, and 250+ MSSQL at our site. Guess which one wins? And we're far from being unique...

And before I get the usual "hate" bull: no, I did NOT select the preferential use of MS. The rest of IT and the business did. If Oracle had not spent the last 5 years trying to oust me out of this site at EVERY SINGLE opportunity, I'd have had a say in selection of suppliers. As is, they actively attacked the VERY person who would have recommended their product(s).

Ah well, what can I say? Nothing like NSW Oracle's own market and sales folks to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. But I'm sure the cash cow will quickly cover any traces of yet another bungled account!
;-) Received on Sat Jun 16 2012 - 07:25:44 CDT

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