Re: Project management melee

From: Mladen Gogala <>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:19:10 +0000 (UTC)
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:40:31 +1000, Noons wrote:

> Well, they were warned - MANY times! - that their stupid marketing
> strategy of dumping on dbas was akin to shooting themselves in the foot
> - dbas were the very people who pushed for Oracle everywhere. Welcome
> to reality.
> Same here: I have trouble finding a dba that will recommend or chose
> Oracle, nowadays. And I DO help run a SIG dedicated to dbas. Unlike
> Oracle's own user group who has been abismally absent from any
> dba-related activities in this state for the last 10 years.
> So much for "actively promoting the product and the company", eh?
> Wasn't that the fundamental criteria for "acedom" at some stage?
> (Any wonder why I point-blank refuse to participate in that silly
> charade?)

One upon time lived a guy not unlike Larry Ellison. Cocky and arrogant, he helped convert an engineering company that he himself created, into a marketing monster that was ripping its customers off. The company HQ was in Maynard Mills, MA. The company was once the second largest company in the computer industry, only smaller than the mighty IBM. Gentleman's name is Ken Olsen. The company he helped create vanished into thin air in the beginning of the 90's. It's been so long ago that I've even forgotten the company name. Company was first bought by a PC maker called Compaq, which was later acquired by HP. The company was exacting the premium price on its flagship product called VAX/VMS and was always finding the way to squeeze more money of their customers. Look how did they end. Oracle is still in danger, there are several players who could mount a serious attack and beat Oracle. Oracle has recently had several marketing disasters and high RDBMS costs help them pay for all of that. They're not invulnerable but they have been very, very lucky so far.

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