Re: SQL query
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 23:45:20 +1100
Message-ID: <iddd4m$osb$1_at_news.eternal-september.org>
Mladen Gogala wrote,on my timestamp of 4/12/2010 1:56 PM:
> I don't want to turn this debate into a personal quarrel between you and
> me, I am expressing my opinion as a long time Oracle user. You as an OUG
> officer and someone who wants to see ROI for the investment made in
> Oracle technology probably dislike such a candid opinion but I can't help
> you there. However, you should ask yourself what did Oracle Corp. do
> wrong to put off such long time users and proponents as Nuno and me. I am
> not a witch, I am you.
>
Just a quick note here. I've grown so tired of the whole OUG experience that I don't bother anymore. I vented my feelings and opinion about the way the OUGs and conferences were run in NSW to the national AusOUG manager back in 2003.
The result was shortly after, AusOUG canceled all conferences in NSW and Qld and only does them in Victoria and WA now.
Of course: all the "groupies" claim those two states are the only ones with "quality" Oracle dbas. It only shows their perfect idiocy and lack of any professionalism.
Meanwhile I and a few other NSW dbas, fed up with the constant useless marketing hype at the infrequent AusOUG meetings, have started another group called the Sydney Oracle Meetup. Alex Gorbachev and Pythian helped us start it and still contribute regularly, thanks guys! Now, THERE is a team of Oracle supporters, if I ever saw one. They do a better job than the entire Oracle marketing in NSW!
In two weeks time we have Cary Millsap talking at one of our regular meetings. And we've had a great many international "stars" talking there. As well as local "coal face" dbas. That means yours truly and the other members. Only technical talk, thank you.
Of course when any services company approaches us to transform the SOM into yet another marketing circus, we refuse point blank.
And of course Oracle Australia refuses to sponsor us in any shape or format, unless we "show an audience of at least 30". Funny thing though: the AUSOUG NSW chapter has meetings with less than half our attendants (same for Vic, Qld and WA, BTW), but has full tactical as well as financial support from Oracle.
I wonder why?
What, I am not "supporting" Oracle in an equally valid REAL user group? Ah yes: they want me to "toe the line" and support their useless circus? I've got two words to answer that, and the first one starts with "F". Received on Sat Dec 04 2010 - 06:45:20 CST