Re: General SAN advice needed for 2TB 9.2.0.8 database on HP-UX

From: Frank van Bortel <fbortel_at_home.nl>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 15:41:20 +0200
Message-ID: <5df8f$4c2f3e00$524ba3af$13054_at_cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>



On 06/29/2010 10:17 PM, joel garry wrote:
> On Jun 29, 12:26 pm, Frank van Bortel<fbor..._at_home.nl> wrote:
>> On 06/23/2010 04:07 PM, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:00:11 +0200, Frank van Bortel wrote:
>>
>>>> Make it all SAME: Stripe and Mirror Everything.
>>
>>> You're in marketing? SAME == RAID 1+0.
>>
>> No; and I prefer RAID 0+1.
>> Not in storage, I seem to recall striping was RAID-0, mirroring
>> was RAID-1. Same would be RAID-0+1, then, eh?
>
> No, see what the faq says, and that 1+0 is better (for fault
> tolerance): http://www.orafaq.com/wiki/RAID

1+0 it is.
>
> http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/go-faster-stripes/ has
> some good thoughts.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Don't know about stripe sizes -
>>
>>> That was the OP's question.
>>
>>>> what do you think to gain by playing with these?
>>
>>> Speed.
>>
>> Still, no one provided any hard numbers.
>>
>> Everybody seems convinced about gains in playing
>> with these figures, but the question remains:
>> - is 1MB stripe any different from what the
>> vendor recommended?
>> - if so, what gains in speed were measured
>> ordered by stripe size?
>
> That's the gist: measure what the real load will be doing. I'd agree
> with John about online logs, but most of my experience over the last
> decade has been with RAID-5, so I didn't say anything 'cause I really
> haven't looked. And yes, I'm a baarf member.
>
> This one seems to say go coarse on the stripes:
> http://www.hds.com/assets/pdf/best-practices-library-deploying-oracle-11g-rac-with-hds.pdf
> I haven't looked at it too closely to see if it makes sense, and
> haven't checked whether it applies to the OP hardware. "The default
> stripe depth for an ASM group is 1MB, which is too low to make
> efficient use of the underlying RAID group stripe size. This should be
> set to 8MB at ASM group creation time by specifying the AU_SIZE
> attribute..."
>
> jg
> --
> _at_home.com is bogus.
> "I believe it’s horribly bad in SQL Server, but it’s doubly horribly
> bad in Oracle." - Tom Kyte on triggers
>

Will check it out - any hard numbers?

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Regards,

Frank van Bortel
Received on Sat Jul 03 2010 - 08:41:20 CDT

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