Re: there is an error in comments
From: Frank van Bortel <frank.van.bortel_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:11:37 +0100
Message-ID: <e4bb5$4b4d8e49$524ba3af$27299_at_cache2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>
joel garry wrote:
> On Jan 6, 3:07 am, Frank van Bortel <frank.van.bor..._at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The commands for shells aren't a programming language? That's a new
> one on me. Could you explain more fully? From the wikipedia unix
> shell entry: "Since it is both an interactive command language as well
> as a scripting programming language it is used by Unix as the facility
> to control (see shell script) the execution of the system." And tex
> has macros... they may not be _good_ languages, but I write shell
> scripts pretty much every day. On the other hand, maybe I just don't
> remember what a programming language is. I often see a distinction
> made between operating system commands and programs, but frankly, I
> don't see the difference - even if you are poking binary into the OS.
> The OS is a program, data can be a program. They're all telling the
> computer what to do. Of course, I'm a big fan of writing a script,
> even to do something once - maybe I've seen enough mistakes to just
> not accept the difference. What's a command but a one-line script?
> It's saved in a file for subsequent use, unless you really are
> misconfigured.
>
> Lisp is from 1958: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_(programming_language)#History
>
> (BTW, I was looking at Noons' blog, and hit the next blog button that
> blogspot puts in, expecting some random page, but it seems to be
> content-aware now. A couple of next's later, I hit your blog. Tried
> it just now and got different blogs, though some were the same as the
> previous time [on a different computer].)
>
> jg
> --
> _at_home.com is bogus.
> http://www.quantcast.com/oracle.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:11:37 +0100
Message-ID: <e4bb5$4b4d8e49$524ba3af$27299_at_cache2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>
joel garry wrote:
> On Jan 6, 3:07 am, Frank van Bortel <frank.van.bor..._at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> joel garry wrote: >>> On Dec 23, 4:35 am, Daneel Yaitskov <rtfm.rtfm.r..._at_gmail.com> wrote: >> <snip> >>>> You must admit that such behavior strong differentiate from others >>>> languages for the rule of one-line comment. Solid bulk of languages >>>> C++, Bash, C#, Haskell, Lisp, TeX etc. consider that one-line comment >>>> can begin in any place of a line excepting strings (a text between "). >> <snip> >> >>>> My resume is this feature tends to errors. >>>> But I don't see any causes that PS/Sql's syntaxes must differentiate >>>> from the mainstream languages. >>>> Daneel Yaitskov >>> Frankly, your comments have more errors than your PL example. >>> You may use any language you desire, in any manner you desire. But if >>> you don't follow the basic rules of the language you are using, your >>> desire will remain unrequited. If you post to usenet your >>> misunderstanding of the rules in an arrogant manner, you are lucky you >>> don't get flamed. I think you are lucky here because your ignorance >>> is so obvious people just think you are still inexperienced enough to >>> excuse you. >> I was tempted very much to respond in such a manner. >> Of course, bash and tex are NOT programming languages at all, >> Haskell is NOT mainstream, and all the rest (C++, C# - yuk! >> and Lisp) are much younger than PL/SQL. >> >> Mr Yaitskov still has a lot to learn. One of these things >> might be mastering the tool, before attempting to use it. >> -- >> >> Regards, >> Frank van Bortel
>
> The commands for shells aren't a programming language? That's a new
> one on me. Could you explain more fully? From the wikipedia unix
> shell entry: "Since it is both an interactive command language as well
> as a scripting programming language it is used by Unix as the facility
> to control (see shell script) the execution of the system." And tex
> has macros... they may not be _good_ languages, but I write shell
> scripts pretty much every day. On the other hand, maybe I just don't
> remember what a programming language is. I often see a distinction
> made between operating system commands and programs, but frankly, I
> don't see the difference - even if you are poking binary into the OS.
> The OS is a program, data can be a program. They're all telling the
> computer what to do. Of course, I'm a big fan of writing a script,
> even to do something once - maybe I've seen enough mistakes to just
> not accept the difference. What's a command but a one-line script?
> It's saved in a file for subsequent use, unless you really are
> misconfigured.
>
> Lisp is from 1958: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_(programming_language)#History
>
> (BTW, I was looking at Noons' blog, and hit the next blog button that
> blogspot puts in, expecting some random page, but it seems to be
> content-aware now. A couple of next's later, I hit your blog. Tried
> it just now and got different blogs, though some were the same as the
> previous time [on a different computer].)
>
> jg
> --
> _at_home.com is bogus.
> http://www.quantcast.com/oracle.com
Not programming languages in the sense they were meant to be programming languages.
I do not regard an OS a programming language, even though it will support scripting. Received on Wed Jan 13 2010 - 03:11:37 CST