Re: oracle has customers over a barrel
From: Mark D Powell <Mark.Powell_at_eds.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:38:10 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <69ebfb17-8790-45a4-b891-3d3787c47964_at_c28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 11, 9:37 am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Pow..._at_eds.com> wrote:
> On Sep 11, 7:52 am, Serge Rielau <srie..._at_ca.ibm.com> wrote:
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> > Captain Pedantic wrote:
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> > > "Serge Rielau" <srie..._at_ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
> > >news:7guq1bF2r6kklU1_at_mid.individual.net...
> > >> DBA wrote:
> > >>>http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_38/b4147052120632.htm
> > >> There are those who bicker and those who act.
> > >> So many new friends these days. :-)
> > >>http://www.channeldb2.com/video/enabling-applications-from
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> > > DB2 supports Oracle SQL PL/SQL out of the box?
> > > Really?
> > > DB2 the mainframe database ...?
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> > DB2 9.7 for LUW, yes, not all of it, but enough to do "exception based"
> > tweaks rather than redesign.
> > In the coming fixpack we'll even do BULK COLLECT and FORRALL.
> > There is a developerworks article written by myself outlining what's
> > supported:http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/data/library/techarticle/dm-0907ora...
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> > Cheers
> > Serge
> > --
> > Serge Rielau
> > SQL Architect DB2 for LUW
> > IBM Toronto Lab
>
> From past experience IBM has made changes where we had to pay license
> charges to keep using features that were bundled in some of our
> existing IBM products prior to upgrades on our mainframe so IBM is no
> angel. Nor is DB2 cheap. DB2 is available to run on Linux and I
> believe on some other platforms as well.
>
> As far as the claim in the article that mySQL is a competitor to
> Oracle (or DB2 or SQL Server for that matter) it just really is not
> true. Mission Criticial systems do not run on mySQL. If you need
> ACID compliant systems you have to obtain a database engine to run
> under mySQL. There are several available. Add an additional layer of
> licensing and support. Nor is mySQL free for commercial use.
>
> IMHO -- Mark D Powell --- Hide quoted text -
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:38:10 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <69ebfb17-8790-45a4-b891-3d3787c47964_at_c28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 11, 9:37 am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Pow..._at_eds.com> wrote:
> On Sep 11, 7:52 am, Serge Rielau <srie..._at_ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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> > Captain Pedantic wrote:
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> > > "Serge Rielau" <srie..._at_ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
> > >news:7guq1bF2r6kklU1_at_mid.individual.net...
> > >> DBA wrote:
> > >>>http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_38/b4147052120632.htm
> > >> There are those who bicker and those who act.
> > >> So many new friends these days. :-)
> > >>http://www.channeldb2.com/video/enabling-applications-from
>
> > > DB2 supports Oracle SQL PL/SQL out of the box?
> > > Really?
> > > DB2 the mainframe database ...?
>
> > DB2 9.7 for LUW, yes, not all of it, but enough to do "exception based"
> > tweaks rather than redesign.
> > In the coming fixpack we'll even do BULK COLLECT and FORRALL.
> > There is a developerworks article written by myself outlining what's
> > supported:http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/data/library/techarticle/dm-0907ora...
>
> > Cheers
> > Serge
> > --
> > Serge Rielau
> > SQL Architect DB2 for LUW
> > IBM Toronto Lab
>
> From past experience IBM has made changes where we had to pay license
> charges to keep using features that were bundled in some of our
> existing IBM products prior to upgrades on our mainframe so IBM is no
> angel. Nor is DB2 cheap. DB2 is available to run on Linux and I
> believe on some other platforms as well.
>
> As far as the claim in the article that mySQL is a competitor to
> Oracle (or DB2 or SQL Server for that matter) it just really is not
> true. Mission Criticial systems do not run on mySQL. If you need
> ACID compliant systems you have to obtain a database engine to run
> under mySQL. There are several available. Add an additional layer of
> licensing and support. Nor is mySQL free for commercial use.
>
> IMHO -- Mark D Powell --- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
PS - I agree with the complaint that Oracle is over-priced. It is definitely too expensive.
- Mark --