Re: Death of the DBA

From: joel garry <>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
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On Aug 26, 10:31 pm, zigzagdna <> wrote:
> On Aug 24, 10:07 am, Helma <> wrote:
> > On Aug 24, 3:22 pm, "geoff" <> wrote:
> > > All the answers are off base, the biggest threat is, the job is shipped off
> > > to some country where the employer can pay $2 or $3 per hour.
> > > --g
> > Until a few years ago, i only saw developers work going to third world
> > countries, but lately i see more and more offers about DBA work that's
> > being done remotely. I assume it's the junior stuff, such as user
> > administration, space management etc. But who has figures on this
> > trend?
> I have worked in several telecom and pharma companies in US, and
> greatest threat to IT is greedy managers who
> off shore everything in IT to India. In my current company:
> development, Oracled dba, sql dba, networking, windows administartion,
> unix adminsitartion, everything is done by HCL India or Tata
> Consultanacies, India.
>  Big companies save lot of money by sending everything to India and
> now days Brazil. If quality of these comanies was so bad, comanies
> really won't be sending these jobs.

Not true, because they are making the management decision based on what they've been sold, not on the quality of the companies. In fact, there has been a backlash (noted by the media since at least 2002 IIRC), as the quality issues are revealed. There are also issues related to the spread of DBA work - a lot of stuff can indeed be done by remote script readers, how much really requires in depth technical expertise varies.

>  It is very difficult to keep your technical skills alive when you are
> taken off from your technical jobs and given a job to do some or other
> kind of status reporting (gloraified name project management). Having
> been in USA for last 30 years, I see a grwoing  trend of companies
> wanting their employees to do any technical work.

A good point. Skills - use 'em or lose 'em.

A little while ago I was treated to a diatribe on Oracle support regarding Virtual Iron. The usual - long chain of support analysts in India, each asking for information already given in SR. Previous support team would just jump on your computer virtually and see the problem and get 'er done. Or so I was told. I was wondering how much of the problem is just integrating support for a new-to-Oracle product, and how much is intrinsic to the Oracle support structure.


-- is bogus.
Received on Thu Aug 27 2009 - 11:24:30 CDT

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