Re: Death of the DBA

From: Mark D Powell <Mark.Powell_at_eds.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:34:42 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <8cac560e-4e5b-4820-a698-1e31d15c7f07_at_26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>



On Aug 21, 8:19pm, joel garry <joel-ga..._at_home.com> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 10:28am, Mladen Gogala <mla..._at_bogus.email.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:07:57 -0700, Helma wrote:
> > > Perhaps you don't see any threat to the Oracle DBA.
>
> > I don't.
>
> > > Others who disagree might talk about the steady march of the MSsql
> > > database,
>
> > They also might check into Betty Ford clinic for a detox. MS SQL is
> > is linked to a single platform and it remains tied to that platform.
> > Windows is on desks, not in the server rooms. Databases are usually in
> > the server rooms, except if we are talking about databases servicing
> > fantasy football.
>
> But, the platform is virtual. At least that's what they tell me those
> guys are doing.
>
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>
> > > the increasing database work going to India,
>
> > The problem with the databases is that they usually contain vital company
> > data. Most of the serious companies would think twice before moving the
> > critical data overseas. I know of no bank or health insurance company that
> > would allow its crucial business database(s) to be dislocated. What goes
> > to India is development, not DBA work.
>
> What about this cloud thingy?
>
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> > > the selfmanaging databases etc.
>
> > > I
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> > Self-managing databases? Like those who obey Asimov's 3 laws? Here is how
> > the 3 laws would look for databases:
>
> > A database may not injure a human being, or through inaction, allow a
> > human being to come to harm unless the being starts asking silly
> > questions about the purpose and the fate of the DBA. The database should
> > occassionally annoy human beings, just to remind them of its importance.
>
> > A database must obey the orders given to it by the DBA. In case of doubt,
> > re-read the previous sentence.
>
> > A database must protect its own existence as long as such protection does
> > not conflict with the First or the Second Law.
>
> > What are "self-managing databases"? Do they exist in the "paperless
> > office"? Dave, you're killing me.
>
> Self-managing databases were explicated in set theory long ago:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [Curly is taking the oath]
> Court Clerk: Take off your hat.
> [Curly takes off his hat with his right hand]
> Court Clerk: Raise your right hand.
> [With his right hand, Curly puts his hat back on, and raises the
> hand]
> Court Clerk: [gesturing to the book he is holding] Put your left hand
> here.
> Judge: [to Curly] Take off you hat.
> [Curly does so with his right hand]
> Court Clerk: [to Curly] Raise your right hand.
> [Curly puts his hat back on to raise the hand]
> Court Clerk: [gesturing to the book he is holding] Now, put your left
> hand here.
> Judge: [to Curly] Please, take off your hat.
> [Curly does so with his right hand]
> Court Clerk: [to Curly] Raise your right hand.
> [Curly repeats the process]
> Court Clerk: [gesturing to the book he is holding] Now, put your left
> hand here.
> Judge: [to Curly] Will you please take off your hat?
> [Curly does so with his right hand]
> Court Clerk: [angrily, to Curly] Raise your RIGHT HAND.
> [Curly repeats the process]
> Court Clerk: [gesturing to the book he is holding] Now, put your left
> hand here.
> Judge: [to Curly] Take off your hat.
> [Curly takes off the hat and places it on his cane, which is in his
> right hand]
> Court Clerk: [to Curly] Raise your right hand.
> [Curly raises his cane with the hat on it]
> Court Clerk: [taking the hat off the cane] Get rid of that hat.
> [Curly takes the hat and puts it on the court clerk's head]
> Curly: [with both hands on the book] Raise YOUR right hand.
> [the court clerk does so, startles, takes the hat off, and places it
> under the book]
> Court Clerk: Raise your right hand.
> [Curly does so]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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> > --http://mgogala.freehos.com
>
> Of course, with 3 laws, you need to come up with a zeroth law:
>
> A database must not give Larry less money, or through inaction, allow
> money to be taken away from Larry.
>
> jg
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LOL - In myopinion Larry has more than enough money. He should remember what happens when you get too greedy

IMHO -- Mark D Powell --. Received on Sat Aug 22 2009 - 09:34:42 CDT

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