Re: Does everyone hate DBConsole as much as me? (rant)
From: gs <gs_at_gs.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:14:47 GMT
Message-ID: <bkBim.41905$PH1.31540_at_edtnps82>
Palooka wrote:
>> I don't rant often, but I have to vent. IMHO the dbconsole is a piece of
>> crapware and I'm really pissed that they replaced the at-least-useable
>> java based Enterprise Manager with it. It seems that I spend 1/2 my time
>> getting the app running from whatever the latest ailment is, 1/4 my time
>> navigating around trying to find what I want and very little time
>> actually getting any use out of it. I've lost count how many times I've
>> had to drop and recreate for various databases, and I'm tired of
>> navigating along then getting connection error pages for seemingly no
>> reason at all. I hate the one-database connectivity, and my last go with
>> grid control got pushed aside after I fought with it for two days and
>> had to abandon it because real work was falling by the wayside.
>>
>> I'd install the java client on each database, but they have crippled it
>> badly and made it less useful. I'm ready to take a good look at a 3rd
>> party app that will let me look at all my databases in a nice, fast,
>> neat little front end. Taking a look at Embarcadero right now. Any other
>> suggestions?
>>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:14:47 GMT
Message-ID: <bkBim.41905$PH1.31540_at_edtnps82>
Palooka wrote:
> On 18/08/09 16:29, gs wrote:
>> I don't rant often, but I have to vent. IMHO the dbconsole is a piece of
>> crapware and I'm really pissed that they replaced the at-least-useable
>> java based Enterprise Manager with it. It seems that I spend 1/2 my time
>> getting the app running from whatever the latest ailment is, 1/4 my time
>> navigating around trying to find what I want and very little time
>> actually getting any use out of it. I've lost count how many times I've
>> had to drop and recreate for various databases, and I'm tired of
>> navigating along then getting connection error pages for seemingly no
>> reason at all. I hate the one-database connectivity, and my last go with
>> grid control got pushed aside after I fought with it for two days and
>> had to abandon it because real work was falling by the wayside.
>>
>> I'd install the java client on each database, but they have crippled it
>> badly and made it less useful. I'm ready to take a good look at a 3rd
>> party app that will let me look at all my databases in a nice, fast,
>> neat little front end. Taking a look at Embarcadero right now. Any other
>> suggestions?
>>
> > Since no Oracle version nor OS platform has been disclosed (what's > new?), we have to guess. My guess is that it is the PEBKAC bug. > > Palooka >
10Gr2 on windows servers, mostly 2003 advanced server, a couple of 2008 server, one 64 bit.
Still a few 9iR2 databases, those are a treat now, as I can get at them with EM Received on Tue Aug 18 2009 - 12:14:47 CDT