Re: Will Oracle ever follow its own advice?

From: Michael Austin <>
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:17:25 -0600
Message-ID: <%CGll.10755$>

Mladen Gogala wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:32:08 -0800, Mark D Powell wrote:
>> Version 11g introduced Secure Files (new internal code to handle LOBS)
>> and now calls traditional LOB data types Basic Files.  Secure Files are
>> supposed to be more space efficient and faster than Basic Files. Perhaps
>> this will speed the migration of the base tables to using LOB data
>> types.
>> HTH -- Mark D Powell --

> There is a beautiful presentation about LOB internals on Julian Dyke's
> site. You can take a look here:
> Fortunately, it doesn't really matter. According to an article that was
> yesterday on the /., relational databases are doomed:
> So, LOB columns, schmlob columns, we all better start learning FrontPage,
> C# and .Not.

The first thing that came to mind when reading their "definition" of keys/values - the CODASYL database came to mind... where data is stored in a parent/child entity called a set. Seems to me the more things change the more things seem to be the same. (There is nothing "new" under the sun?) OODB was also supposed to be the be-all end-all for the database world - only thing is...I do not ever remember them to be as fast as the RDBMS model. They certainly were not very popular. is a good starting place to read about such db engines.

While implementations seem to be different for BigTable, Drizzle etc... the concept does not appear to be new. (based on the definitions of this article.) Received on Sat Feb 14 2009 - 15:17:25 CST

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