Re: an honest post about being an oracle ace
From: gazzag <gareth_at_jamms.org>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:45:27 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <a127894e-0bb3-46e4-bd8c-0d989279d039_at_q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com>
On 3 Feb, 04:28, Michael Austin <maus..._at_firstdbasource.com> wrote:
> joel garry wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 3:02 am, Noons <wizofo..._at_yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >> Mladen Gogala wrote,on my timestamp of 2/02/2009 9:37 PM:
>
> >>> There is a financial crisis going on, many of the banks that were Oracle's
> >>> most valued clients are no longer in business and the surviving ones are
> >>> on the dole, which means that they will not be buying new RAC licenses
> >>> anytime soon.
> >> Don't let that stop "experts" from trying to sell us RAC across the Pacific, for
> >> our Aus and US centres. I'm quite sure that's gonna work real swell for the
> >> DW, particularly with ours being AIX, theirs HPUX, a link between the two of
> >> 48Mbps and a daily change rate of 500GB on the common tables.
> >> Of course: they wonder why I call them "incompetent, raving lunatics" at every
> >> meeting...
>
> > This is a more recent comment by Chen on the blog (in response to a
> > "how best to learn oracle" comment):
>
> > "Convince the business they urgently need - RAC, Streams, Dataguard,
> > 11g, datawarehouse, materialized views. Whatever you want to learn.
> > Actually, most successful DBAs I know do that."
>
> > I think she's done some very good stuff, but must take issue with that
> > one.
>
> <snip>
> yes - convince them they the RAC, then issue the automatic PL/SQL
> statement:
>
> alter DBA update resume;
>
> I know there are valid reasons to do RAC, but most that are postulated
> and presented to management these days are nonsense.
>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:45:27 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <a127894e-0bb3-46e4-bd8c-0d989279d039_at_q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com>
On 3 Feb, 04:28, Michael Austin <maus..._at_firstdbasource.com> wrote:
> joel garry wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 3:02 am, Noons <wizofo..._at_yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >> Mladen Gogala wrote,on my timestamp of 2/02/2009 9:37 PM:
>
> >>> There is a financial crisis going on, many of the banks that were Oracle's
> >>> most valued clients are no longer in business and the surviving ones are
> >>> on the dole, which means that they will not be buying new RAC licenses
> >>> anytime soon.
> >> Don't let that stop "experts" from trying to sell us RAC across the Pacific, for
> >> our Aus and US centres. I'm quite sure that's gonna work real swell for the
> >> DW, particularly with ours being AIX, theirs HPUX, a link between the two of
> >> 48Mbps and a daily change rate of 500GB on the common tables.
> >> Of course: they wonder why I call them "incompetent, raving lunatics" at every
> >> meeting...
>
> > This is a more recent comment by Chen on the blog (in response to a
> > "how best to learn oracle" comment):
>
> > "Convince the business they urgently need - RAC, Streams, Dataguard,
> > 11g, datawarehouse, materialized views. Whatever you want to learn.
> > Actually, most successful DBAs I know do that."
>
> > I think she's done some very good stuff, but must take issue with that
> > one.
>
> <snip>
> yes - convince them they the RAC, then issue the automatic PL/SQL
> statement:
>
> alter DBA update resume;
>
> I know there are valid reasons to do RAC, but most that are postulated
> and presented to management these days are nonsense.
>
If the business has the money to spend on technology that will benefit your Oracle experience, why the hell not? The money will get spent by management one way or another. If you don't make your case they'll come back flat broke with yet another bag of magic beans ;)
-g Received on Tue Feb 03 2009 - 04:45:27 CST