Re: Help required - URGENT PLS

From: gym dot scuba dot kennedy at gmail <kennedyii_at_verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:51:31 GMT
Message-ID: <De5al.4900$BC4.3109_at_nwrddc02.gnilink.net>


"Charles Hooper" <hooperc2000_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ddf13c55-ec88-40d8-9dff-17fa03a82d21_at_i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> There are issues with the original post:
> 1. The writing style of this "Palooka" <nob..._at_nowhere.com> differs
> significantly from posts made previously in this group by a person
> also using "Palooka" <nob..._at_nowhere.com>. See below.
> 2. The OP is apparently under the impression that the people
> participating this group work for Oracle support, or are on-call 24x7
> for urgent problems (URGENT tag in the subject line).
> 3. The version of Oracle used by the OP was not disclosed.
> 4. The operating system used by the OP was not disclosed.
> 5. The alert log messages related to the error were not disclosed.
> 6. The OP did not state what changes may have been made leading up to
> this issue.
> 7. The OP apparently made little or no effort to troubleshoot the
> problem, at least that is the impression from the post
> (troubleshooting steps not listed).
> 8. Instant messaging speak "U", "PLS", all capital letters were used
> (top-posting has yet to be determined as the OP did not reply yet).
>
> The above are the reasons why I did not respond to this post roughly
> 12 hours ago.
>
> I suspect that Sybrand's intention with his post was to encourage
> people to provide sufficient information when reporting problems so
> that the problems made be addressed efficiently. That intention,
> however, is almost completely lost due to the words he selected in his
> reply. The words were rather harsh, which should have been specific
> to the individual, rather than the individual's apparent community (I
> am not sure if this would be considered racism or a gross over
> generalization).
>
> ----
> Writing style differences, "Palooka" vs. "Palooka":
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.oracle.server/browse_thread/thread/ab430f37c080fe71
> "hpuxrac wrote:
>> Reasonable designs for a relational database are done using ERD's and
>> 3nf.
> Agreed in priciple, as a logical design. But when transposing the
> logical design into a physical one, it might be sensible to normalise
> further in some selected areas for application flexibility, and/or
> to
> denormalise (carefully) in others for performance. IMHO though, each
> such change should be considered carefully, and a justification
> documented.
> Just my 2c.
> Palooka"
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.oracle.server/browse_thread/thread/d146fb9fb157c8ee
> "joel garry wrote:
>> A few SECONDS of google:
>> http://www.psoug.org/reference/with.html
>> http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/asktom/f?p=100:11:0::::P11_QUESTION_ID:5...
>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/oracle9i/daily/oct10.html
>> http://www.singlequery.com/2006/12/using-the-oracle-with-clause/
>> et cetera.
> Why should he waste precious seconds on Google, when people here will
> do
> his work for nothing?
> Palooka"
> ----
>
> From the above quotes, it should be easy to see that the Palooka who
> has contributed to this group in the past is likely not the same
> Palooka who was the OP in this thread. Palooka's comment in the
> second of the above quotes suggests that he understands that searches
> (and research) should be performed prior to posting, rather than
> dumping problems on group members (the context of the quote may not
> make that easy to see), while the OP in this thread apparently does
> not subscribe to the same line of reasoning.
>
> Flame war avoided, or too late?
>
> Charles Hooper
> IT Manager/Oracle DBA
> K&M Machine-Fabricating, Inc.

Notice he has not responded to any questions to resolve his matter. Guess it wasn't that urgent.
Jim Received on Sat Jan 10 2009 - 11:51:31 CST

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