Re: High Availability Options
From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:50:20 -0700
Message-ID: <1212511818.827621@bubbleator.drizzle.com>
>> Pat wrote:
>>> So, I've been asked to propose a HA solution for an Oracle database.
>>> My original proposal was:
>>>
>>> Production RAC cluster in data center A
>>> DR Database (no cluster) in data center B
>>>
>>> I originally proposed Oracle Enterprise at both sites with dataguard
>>> being used to keep DR in synch with the prod cluster.
>>>
>>> Naturally, that particular configuration added up to some serious
>>> money (I don't recall the details, but I think we had 20+ LU's worth
>>> of Oracle Enterprise at $40k a pop). Probably not surprisingly, the
>>> customer came back and said "dear lord, can't you give us an HA
>>> architecture for less money?"
>>>
>>> Which brings me here. Are there any other best practises or
>>> recommended approaches for a High Availability Oracle configuration
>>> that don't rely on dataguard and Oracle Enterprise?
>>
>> Anyone that pays Oracle $40K/cpu likely buys used cars for the price
>> on the window too. Bring in someone with experience working with
>> Oracle sales and I would expect a minimum 40% discount just by
>> virtue of asking for it.
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:50:20 -0700
Message-ID: <1212511818.827621@bubbleator.drizzle.com>
Michael Austin wrote:
> DA Morgan wrote:
>> Pat wrote:
>>> So, I've been asked to propose a HA solution for an Oracle database.
>>> My original proposal was:
>>>
>>> Production RAC cluster in data center A
>>> DR Database (no cluster) in data center B
>>>
>>> I originally proposed Oracle Enterprise at both sites with dataguard
>>> being used to keep DR in synch with the prod cluster.
>>>
>>> Naturally, that particular configuration added up to some serious
>>> money (I don't recall the details, but I think we had 20+ LU's worth
>>> of Oracle Enterprise at $40k a pop). Probably not surprisingly, the
>>> customer came back and said "dear lord, can't you give us an HA
>>> architecture for less money?"
>>>
>>> Which brings me here. Are there any other best practises or
>>> recommended approaches for a High Availability Oracle configuration
>>> that don't rely on dataguard and Oracle Enterprise?
>>
>> Anyone that pays Oracle $40K/cpu likely buys used cars for the price
>> on the window too. Bring in someone with experience working with
>> Oracle sales and I would expect a minimum 40% discount just by
>> virtue of asking for it.
> > Funny you should mention buying a used car... Oracle Sales force has got > to be the best "used car salesmen" on the planet. If you do not know > how to aggressively negotiate with them, they will eat your lunch. > > Rule #1: NEVER, EVER pay their first or maybe even their second quote. > Rule #2: If you did pay full price, you cannot afford to NOT hire a > negotiator that understands rule #1.
Good software.
Good sales.
Good financial results.
Profits for the shareholders.
That's Larry's job description and he gets a passing grade. <g>
-- Daniel A. Morgan Oracle Ace Director & Instructor University of Washington damorgan_at_x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.orgReceived on Tue Jun 03 2008 - 11:50:20 CDT