Re: disaster recovery

From: Ben <benalvey_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <14f3b54a-8028-4869-b71a-bf988acbb9b6@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>


On May 16, 3:52 am, Frank van Bortel <frank.van.bor..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Ben wrote:
> > On May 15, 2:31 pm, joel garry <joel-ga..._at_home.com> wrote:
> >> On May 15, 10:14 am, Ben <benal..._at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> 10.2.0.2 EE aix5l 64bit
> >>> I guess I'll just reference my post that was somehow moved.
> >>>http://tinyurl.com/5zej6a
> >>> I was wondering about the statement of better to use a current
> >>> controlfile rather than one that I recovered. Why is it better?
> >>> I believe I'm going to have to do a pitr, so why not just use the
> >>> controlfile and spfile that was included in the hotbackup that I'm
> >>> going to be using for recovery?
> >> I think it's just easier to let Oracle do if possible, but if you are
> >> PITR then do what you need to.  As always, it depends.  A lot of calls
> >> for help here indicate people are unclear on when to use which syntax
> >> (like using backup controlfile and such), often they will make it more
> >> complicated than necessary and blow it.  The trick is to understand
> >> how Oracle compares SCN's in datafile headers and controlfiles, in
> >> order to decide what recovery is needed.  The bit about disk versus
> >> tape - if you still have an original controlfile on disk and the
> >> archived logs that the recovered data files will need, you probably
> >> want to use that one, letting Oracle recover as much as it can, and
> >> rollback the rest.  But it depends on why you want PITR - what
> >> happened that you don't want to be committed?  If it is just all your
> >> disks got wiped including archived logs and you need to restore to the
> >> past, just do that.
>
> >> jg
> >> --
> >> @home.com is bogus.
> >> Maybe it's just customers who are stable enough to use remote DBA
> >> support that are slow to adopt...http://www.computerworlduk.com/technology/business-intelligence/datab...
>
> > The reference to disk in the original post was a typo, the only disk
> > that the server can still find data on, is the root system disk. We
> > may be able to get back the filesystem that included the oracle home.
> > If we can, that would include our spfile and alert log from the day
> > before the outage. Other than that, I don't have anything left except
> > for backup pieces on tape.
>
> > The specific timeline of events was
> > Friday. full hot backup
> > Sunday: power outtage to disk cabinet, server's conception of disks
> > are scrambled.
> > Monday: we realize that the server is up but no data.
>
> I have to disagree with Joel on this one - *always* use the most
> current controlfile - it has the most up-to-date state of
> your database. OK - having said that:
> Just restore your backups on a (different) machine.
> Mount, alter the locations of the tablespaces, move
> the datafiles around, recover (maybe until cancel, or
> until sunday/seconds before crash) and open.
>
> Sounds so simple, and sometimes it is.
>
> May the force be with you.
>
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for the backup process we do a

backup database

when restoring the spfile if I tell it to

restore spfile from autobackup;

will it find that backup that was included from the hotbackup? Received on Fri May 16 2008 - 10:06:28 CDT

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