Re: missing posts?

From: joel garry <>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:33:07 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <>

On May 15, 7:58 am, Ben <> wrote:
> On May 15, 10:40 am, gazzag <> wrote:
> > On 15 May, 15:33, gazzag <> wrote:
> > > On 15 May, 15:04, Ben <> wrote:
> > > > > Maybe you should pick a less common name.
> > > > ?? What on Earth are you talking about?    BEN? I'm sorry that my name
> > > > is common, it didn't pick it to begin with.
> > > What? You think my name is really gazzag?
> good point, but I shouldn't have to change my name to something unique
> to keep a post where I posted it.
> > > Anyway, to answer your original question, no, this newsgroup is not
> > > moderated.  I suspect PEBCAK.
> While it is possible that I posted it there, I highly doubt it. I
> never go there and usually just click on the group from 'my groups' in
> google.
> My account of what happened is that I made two posts yesterday to
> c.d.o.s and today both of them are in c.d.o.m. As a matter of fact I'm
> about 99.9998% sure I posted in here, as I checked it several times
> yesterday and never went to cdom to do so.
> > > HTH
> > > -g
> > I meant to add, isn't this your post?
> >
> > I believe that's where I told you to look in the first place.
> yes, it is and I found it over there after you said to check there,
> BUT I didn't post it there. Why my name being set to Ben should have
> any bearing on it being there is beyond me.

Your name doesn't have anything to do with it, but having a unique name helps in _finding_ your own posts.

One of the options when you are viewing your messages is "show original". This displays the post as it looks to all the computers involved without any additional formatting (except with the email obscured to somewhat inhibit harvesting email by spambots). Your header looks like this:

Path:!!!not-for-mail From: Ben <>
Subject: how is sql id set
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Organization:
Lines: 5
Message-ID: <ff6c6d2b-2303-4473-a35c-> NNTP-Posting-Host:
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: 1210794603 23789 (14 May 2008 19:50:03 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To:
Injection-Info:; posting- host=;

        posting-account=-9uN5AoAAAAAjTt52tgUM4-DV07HwXgP User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-Via: 1.0 POISA01
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1;


So we can see that you posted to cdom whether you remember it or not.

Another option is "view profile." This shows all the posts you've made. Note that viewing this from your post in this thread gives a yahoo address with cdos posts, while from the cdom thread it shows your gmail address with cdom and brewing posts. They both show your same picture.

It seems google groups is smart enough to differentiate your different profiles. I've also run into this, as, for example, when I'm posting from cdos it shows me as Joel Garry, but from other places it shows me as jgar the jorrible (a very old joke from text based gaming on PDP systems that only allowed very short logins). Google changes how this works without notice, sometimes slipstreaming in breaks or fixes, with sometimes hilarious results as this propagates to who you are for blog postings. Since your picture is there, you must have figured out how to modify your profile (unless it propagated from an older yahoo account, which I doubt as my own experience is yahoo periodically forgets about me, don't get me started on flickr screwups).

This is called SSO (Single Sign On), which of course becomes a silly misnomer when applied to multiple users over multiple functional domains, as with the Oracle OTN and metalink. Google uses your email to log in, and lets you have multiple emails with multiple profiles, and change those (it didn't used to, which is why I kept my bogus email when the @home domain moved to Japan. Very effective anti-spam filter. Nowadays it makes less difference, though watch out if you let one go and someone else grabs it.) Metalink used to be AFU with changing email addresses, don't know if they've fixed it.

Anyways, searching on my name allows me keep up with direct responses to my posts. Searching on author ben gives millions of posts, some of which you may not like. Some people give more credence to posts from real identities.


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Received on Thu May 15 2008 - 12:33:07 CDT

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