Re: consolidation of multiple rows

From: Jerry Stuckle <>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:01:31 -0500
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joel garry wrote:
> On Mar 10, 7:16 pm, Jerry Stuckle <> wrote:

>> jgar the jorrible wrote:
>>> On Mar 8, 8:02 am, Jerry Stuckle <> wrote:
>>>> DA Morgan wrote:
>>>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>> The other really sad part is that they were hired because they were
>>>>>>> "certified".
>>>>>> None of these are "certified", AFAIK.  They were hired for their
>>>>>> knowledge, not because of a piece of paper.  But then they were doing
>>>>>> it long before certifications were around.
>>>>> We've a mixed crowd on this thread ... MySQL, Oracle, and SQL Server
>>>>> so we need to be careful about what we claim and how it will be
>>>>> interpreted by different audiences.
>>>>> MySQL certification?
>>>> ANY certification.  These guys (and gals) have been DBA's much longer
>>>> than MySQL - or even SQL Server - has been around, much less
>>>> certifications for them.  Not sure when Oracle started up.
>>> Well, maybe people in the IBM mainframe world of the '80s didn't want
>>> to talk to you about how stupid IBM was for not aggresively following
>>> up on their own theorists and let Oracle put out a product first.
>> Sorry, incorrect.
>>> You might learn some history, man. "Yes, actually Oracle had an
>>> earlier SQL product than IBM. IBM invented the language, but Oracle
>>> shipped it first."
>> Sorry, try again.  IBM had a relational database as a commercial product
>> in the late 70's.  I don't remember what it was called at the time - but
>> it implemented the SQL language at the time.  This later evolved into DB2.
>> And don't believe everything you read on the internet.

> Well, I gotta say, the particular link I posted is a lot more
> trustable than "I don't remember what it was called at the time - but
> it implemented the SQL language at the time..." Go back to that link
> and look at the quote attributed to Codd. And read the rest of doc
> with those navigation arrows at the top and bottom, it might happen to
> be about what you don't remember.
>> I wasn't working on relational databases at the time, but I was working for IBM and familiar with many of their products.

> So you were not in an ivory tower, you were in a manure silo. I guess
> that makes you a hands-on expert.
> Oh, and I watched part of Dan putting together that OOW demo - it
> wasn't a "tool" it was a 24 node cluster. From scratch.
> And I did know about Mendeleev from before they mentioned him in AP
> high school chemistry.
> jg
> --
> is bogus.
> "Often a quick way to improve code is to remove the entire exception
> section." - William Robertson

Ah, yes, it was known as System R, back in the early 70's. Long before Oracle.

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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
Received on Tue Mar 11 2008 - 14:01:31 CDT

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