Re: Online Survey about web based IT training.... iPod raffle!!!

From: joel garry <>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:26:14 -0800 (PST)
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On Feb 6, 7:39 pm, just_asking <> wrote:
> Dear Garry,
> I don't mind taking this survey post off if its going to anger so many
> people.  I have been trying to email moderators of different websites
> and discussion groups like, etc. for weeks seeking
> permission to post my survey link and no one has replied.  As a last
> ditch effort, I am put in this link myself.  It is by no means to
> offend or anger anyone.  The logic I used was, I am not selling
> anything, just asking for feedback, but in the form of a survey so
> that it is structured.   The marketing firm that helped create this
> survey is in no way responsible for the posting on this discussion
> board.
> We are trying to come up with good and affordable ERP courses to
> essentially help IT and non-IT professionals to become ERP
> implementors.  WE want to target markets segments of people who are
> being displaced by outsourcing and general layoffs...  I think its a
> good cause and there is no better forum than this to help define what
> is a good course.  But, if everyone feels that this post should not be
> here, I will take this link off.  I will wait for a couple of more
> replies and do accordingly.  Please note, I am an Oracle professional
> myself... and mean no disrespect to any usenet group or member.
> Infact I used to be a regular on this group myself years ago.
> Regards.

"...good and affordable ERP courses..." "...want to target markets segments" - how much more specifically commercial can you be? Why don't you think is obviously a better place for this sort of thing?

There are some posts where it is debateable whether they belong here (for example, doing what you claim to do but for free), but your survey isn't one of them. As a regular, no matter how many years ago, you ought to know that.

Are you a member of the marketing firm that helped create this survey? Of the company that will be using the results? Does it make a difference?

Now, if you are targetting "people who are being displaced by outsourcing and general layoffs..." that might be a worthy goal - or you might just be one of many fly-by-night companies aiming to fleece those who are already down. We have no way of knowing - it is even possible you are being manipulated or are naive, such things have happened. Heck, it happened to the company I took a couple of OCP exams at, it was the biggest advertiser on some local radio stations - after a number of successful years, the guy just took off with a million bucks, leaving a bunch of out-of-work people in the lurch, responsible for loans etc... and that wasn't even one of the fly-by-night ones.


-- is bogus.  As the test pilot climbs out of the experimental
aircraft, having torn off the wings and tail in the crash landing, the
crash truck arrives, the rescuer sees a bloodied pilot and asks, "What
happened?" The pilot's reply, "I don't know, I just got here myself!"
- Attributed to Ray Crandell (Lockheed test pilot).
Received on Thu Feb 07 2008 - 13:26:14 CST

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