Re: Annoying delay of

From: joel garry <>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:25:10 -0800 (PST)
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On Dec 31, 1:08 am, Mladen Gogala <> wrote:
> Let's face it: the code quality of Oracle 10 is worse then dirt.
> There are many bugs, for various platforms, some of them extremely
> critical (wrong results with ANSI joins or even with hash joins).
> Oracle launched Oracle11 before fixing oracle 10.2 to an acceptable
> state. Are we being pushed into Oracle11 or is Oracle Corp. conducting
> some kind of politics at the expense of its customers? It does look
> much like a business equivalent of Iraq war. Will Oracle fix Oracle10
> and when? What will be the future policy with patchsets? The worse code
> gets, the fewer patchsets they produce.
> I wonder whether it is time to recommend UDB to my management. All the
> apps are using Hibernate and WebLogic, switching to UDB should not be
> that difficult. I am extremely annoyed with Oracle Corp. I am not sure
> whether having so irritated customers is a sound business policy, but I
> am inclined to make my management vote with their wallet. That is about
> the only thing I can do. After all, my allegiance goes to my management,
> not to the company that is pulling my leg and refusing to fix the darned
> mess they call Oracle10.
> Once upon a time, in a galaxy not so far away from here, there was a
> company called DEC in Maynard, MA. and it was the 2nd largest company
> in the computer industry. That company was behaving much like Oracle
> behaves today and caused anger and ire to their customers. That company
> sleeps with the fishes, together with their venerable operating system,
> once very much loved VMS. That should be the ultimate lesson for arrogant
> software companies. It maybe the right time to teach Oracle Corp. that
> lesson.

They did it to move people _to_ VMS too, in case that wasn't what you were referring to. They had a great deal of success with that.

Could any company have been more arrogant than IBM? Especially in the 50's, when the gummint had to beat them down. And the 60's regardless of the beat-down. And are they yet any smaller than anyone else? The market stratified, but grew more than each strata.

Don't you think the real problem might be the general avoidance of responsibility for software problems? That's what laws and regulation are for. MS, IBM and Oracle all have managed to innovate ahead of the legal milieu. This has had good and bad effects. Too much success breeds arrogance. There needs to be a carrot and a stick. The stick is legal and financial consequences. The carrot is positive financial consequences. How can we make it appear to Those In Control that long-term customer goodwill is financially rewarding? Threatening to leave because apps consider the db a bucket works both ways, neither long-term.

Bugs in the db? Not even a gnat bothering the elephants.

You want _more_ patchsets? :-)


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Received on Mon Dec 31 2007 - 14:25:10 CST

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