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Re: OEM (dbcontrol) question

From: Mladen Gogala <>
Date: 12 Dec 2007 10:06:54 GMT
Message-ID: <475fb2be$0$1340$>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:47:39 -0800, EdStevens wrote:

> Platform: Oracle on HP-UX 11
> Just need to get pointed in the right direction after chasing my tail
> through several documents ... trying to run down a couple of items with
> OEM.
> First, the OEM home page is no longer reporting errors from the
> alert<sid>.log - it just shows "No ORA- errors" even though a manual
> check of the log shows daily occurances of 'WARNING: inbound connection
> timed out (ORA-3136)'. These used to get reported until recently, so
> I'm not sure where the disconnect occurred.
> Second, also on the OEM home page, the SQL Response Time section always
> reports 'Latest collection is empty'.
> A check of 'emctl status agent' indicates the agent is behaving
> normally, with xml file uploads occurring in a timely manner and no
> backlog of uploads.
> Again, I just need to get pointed in the right direction to find how to
> run these down.
> Thanks.

Grid Control is what is usually known as vaporware - poorly documented, enormous pile of ... stuff, unreliable at best, which will not become really useful before version 13g, if ever. It needs 3 oracle homes, documentation is less then clear, it contains enormous quantities of Java, with XML configuration files and cryptic error messages, Perl scripts and tons of freeware components. It also requires a box with at least 2GB or RAM.
OEM was created by a bunch of cheap programmers, each doing his own thing and a bunch of "system integrators" gathering all of this patchwork into a single, enormous pile of...stuff.
If you need a decent database management product, contact Quest, it's your best bet. As long as OEM looks like it looks now, I am not touching the stuff.
OEM needs to be re-written from scratch, by a decent programming team, with clear vision, ease of use and performance in mind, just like products from Quest. In the meantime, use Nagios with the NRPE plugins. It's much simpler, easier to set up and it doesn't take a monster to run.

Mladen Gogala
Received on Wed Dec 12 2007 - 04:06:54 CST

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