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Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2007-11-03 16:25, DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote:
>> Peter J. Holzer wrote: >>> On 2007-11-03 13:19, DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote: >>>> Marc Blum wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:35:53 -0700, DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Was it the application running on a client? The developer is useless. >>>>> sorry??? you're kiddin'!? >>>>> >>>>> Dear DA, >>>>> >>>>> IMHO, with this answer you kicked yourself out of business. >>>> PL/SQL developers don't fix application code ... >>> Who said anything about PL/SQL developers? "The developer" is the >>> developer of the application with the problem. >> So you are going to give DBA privs to the Java developer? Now you've >> really got me frightened.
>>>> C or Java developers do. >>> If the application is written in C or Java, then the developer will be a >>> C or Java developer. If his application accesses the database directly >>> he should still know enough about the database to diagnose problems. How >>> else could he develop the application in the first place? >> Listen to yourself for a second. A Java developer writes code that runs >> on an application server.
>> The product is a JAR or EAR file perhaps.
>> This person's knowledge of wait events is precisely zero. Likely they >> can't even construct a decent WHERE clause.
Do you know a single Java developer that knows how to run an Explain Plan? Could tell you what DBMS_XPLAN is and how it works? Knows the difference between NOT IN and NOT EXISTS? I don't. I'm sure there are a couple of them out there somewhere but I've never met them.
-- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan_at_x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.orgReceived on Sat Nov 03 2007 - 15:19:33 CDT