Re: why administrator refuse to give permission on PLUSTRACE

From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:25:13 -0700
Message-ID: <1194107109.857572@bubbleator.drizzle.com>

Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2007-11-03 13:19, DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote:

>> Marc Blum wrote:
>>> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:35:53 -0700, DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Was it the application running on a client? The developer is useless.
>>> sorry??? you're kiddin'!?
>>>
>>> Dear DA, 
>>>
>>> IMHO, with this answer you kicked yourself out of business.
>> PL/SQL developers don't fix application code ...

>
> Who said anything about PL/SQL developers? "The developer" is the
> developer of the application with the problem.

So you are going to give DBA privs to the Java developer? Now you've really got me frightened.

>> C or Java developers do.

>
> If the application is written in C or Java, then the developer will be a
> C or Java developer. If his application accesses the database directly
> he should still know enough about the database to diagnose problems. How
> else could he develop the application in the first place?
>
> hp

Listen to yourself for a second. A Java developer writes code that runs on an application server. The product is a JAR or EAR file perhaps. The fact that this application server makes a connection to the database, in your opinion, justifies putting that developer onto the production data server with DBA privs? Are you mad? This person's knowledge of wait events is precisely zero. Likely they can't even construct a decent WHERE clause.

-- 
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

Received on Sat Nov 03 2007 - 11:25:13 CDT