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Re: why administrator refuse to give permission on PLUSTRACE

From: Galen Boyer <>
Date: 2 Nov 2007 09:42:04 -0500
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, wrote:

> Seriously, I agree that you don't want most programmers anywhere near
> a production system. But then, those are probably the programmers
> which you don't want to develop software which runs on your system
> anyway.

In my experience, it has been the DBA's that you don't want near the production system. As much as the DBA role is supposed to be filled by the most talented Oracle expertise, it is normally just not the case. In my experience, whenever non-usual problems need to be solved, the DBAs call in the developers, grant us whatever access we need and then assign the bug# to us.

In my experience, DBA's DON'T:
1) know what the business problem is that is being solved. 2) know how to script and certainly have no clue what solid PL/SQL

   programming practices are.
3) know what source control is and are completely loath to have their

   work monitored and tracked.
4) know just how dangerous off-the-shelf software is, such as

5) know how to use sqlplus. (its unreal how many DBA's are tied to the

   hip with TOAD. Great tool, but should supplement sqlplus, not    replace it.

I could go on, but the DBA's on this newsgroup are not representative of the DBA's in the real world. The DBA's on this newsgroup are what DBA's should be, strong developers who use that skill to be strong DBAs. The DBA's in most shops are UNIX admins that have this other montrosity called Oracle, that they are in charge of.

Galen Boyer
Received on Fri Nov 02 2007 - 09:42:04 CDT

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