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Re: Looks like HJR is thinking about tossing in the towel?

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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:31:39 -0700
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On Nov 2, 10:46 am, hpuxrac <> wrote:
> I have been way too busy lately. I guess being busy beats the
> alternative.
> A recent blog posting notes that HJR is ( once again ) thinking about
> shutting down. I guess that doesn't surprise me a lot as I have
> noticed that he is sporadically posting here on cdos.

Try learning to read. The recent blog post asked the question, "Is this site still worth keeping?"

I explained why I was asking the question: a lack of forum activity, a lack of response to blog pieces. A general perceived sense that people had moved on.

I got lots of answers, about 45 on the website itself, another 50 or so via email. The consensus was, 'yes, the site is worth keeping, so please keep it'

Which is why the even more recent blog post announced the fact that the site would indeed be staying.

> Several thoughts in no specific order. The enthusiasm and quality of
> blogging about oracle has really spiraled down over the last 2
> years ... maybe the honeymoon is over?

Are you talking about me specifically at this point, or Oracle-related blogging generally?

> Those people that do post the most are pretty much unchanged. The
> usual suspects with the usual ulterior motives possibly. Yeah the
> cherry sisters are still alive plus well ... you know.
> I have been thrown off HJR's site's more than once. I guess if you
> want to express opinions that don't agree with his viewpoint that's
> what happens.

No, that's not what happens at all. You get thrown off the site for being a dumb-ass trouble maker that doesn't know when to stop digging no matter how deep the hole.

> However much more than that HJR's site has gone through so many
> versions and providers and reincarnations that it was probably very
> hard for people to keep up. Vague good intentions of preserving older
> content just never happened.

You really do need to get out and about more. The site hasn't changed providers in 10 months. It hasn't changed format or content in over a year. The old content is still there, exactly where it's always been, and I went to especial efforts to convert all old wiki content into new knowledge base content. There were never any "vague good intentions of preserving older content", but concrete promises to do just that which have been kept.

The forum content was indeed wiped (more than 12 months ago) because conversion issues were just too tricky to deal with, plus I can tell what people read on the site and posts from over 12 months ago isn't it. It would have been a waste of effort to convert it, which is why I announced, again very concretely and specifically, that that particular bit of site content would NOT be converted.

> C'est la vie toujours tout la meme. It would be good to see HJR back
> here on cdos but I am not sure he has the appetite for it any longer.

If there's one thing I hate more than people pontificating about Oracle non-factually, it's people pontificating about my state of mind on even less evidence and with even less accuracy or regard for the facts. When I don't have the appetite for it any longer, I'll be sure to post a message to that effect just before I switch off the site. Asking people whether the site is still useful doesn't even get close.

> It's a tough choice putting in so many hours on something that doesn't
> bring in any additional revenue.

No, it's not. The only tough choice I have ever had to make was whether I was being useful to enough people.

Idle, ill-informed, obviously biased and factually erroneous speculations such as yours presented here are one of the main reasons you got booted off the site. With justification, I'd have said, judging by this complete dollop of tripe. Received on Fri Nov 02 2007 - 04:31:39 CDT

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