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Re: the usual rubbish from Oracle marketing...

From: DA Morgan <>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:27:21 -0700
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Noons wrote:
> On Sep 8, 8:30 am, joel garry <> wrote:

>> Funnily enough, the faq says only non-employees can be an ACE,

> Hehehe! Everytime they try to fix it, they
> stuff up something else.
> That one is yet another clear inconsistency
> in a sadly long string. Obviously, no one is even
> trying to proof-read what is being plastered on
> that site.
> How "web 2" is that?...

And it matters in what significant way?

Whether Tom Kyte or Ted Farrell are Aces matters in what way to whom? If this is important enough for you to generate angst I've no doubt you've been traumatized by Paris Hilton and Brittany Spears.

>>> If only we were getting support from oracle up to the level that the
>>> marketing hype is being driven out at.
>> The recent calls I've made to support have me quite happy.

> Same here. Support is not the problem. The problem
> is that the bugs they deal with are not acted upon or given
> only very low priority against the "new" stuff.
> Meanwhile, those of us who perform the real advocacy
> by trying to make the blessed thing work at the coalface
> and get customers to not eject it for its buggy content,
> for decades on end, get labeled as "cynical".

I didn't realize you were the "real advocacy" for Oracle. Must have missed something somewhere. <g> and eBay seem to be using the product Ok. So is AT&T, Boeing, every major bank in the world, almost every Fortune 500 company, etc. If they can live with it what envelope pushing is going on in Oz that justifies this level of complaining.

>> I tend to emit rude sounds in the direction of marketing!

I do too. And if you'd do it toward marketing rather than development I'd join in the chorus.

> That's one way of dealing with it. :-)
> The other of course is to belt them on the head
> at every opportunity...

And so far the results demonstrate you're successful?

You know how to contact Mark Townsend directly. If there are specific issues raise them with him.

Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
Received on Mon Sep 10 2007 - 11:27:21 CDT

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