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Re: EXP Parameters to take backup of 110 GB database

From: Alexander Skwar <>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:10:19 +0200
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> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:58:21 +0200, Alexander Skwar
> <> wrote:

>>Why do you do that? Want to cover, that you don't have arguments?
>>Alexander Skwar

> So far you have only been out to condemn RMAN, without actually having
> used it,

Wrong. How could I've shown the breakage, without having used it?

If you mean that I did not yet use RMAN in production: You're right. The current solution works very well and there's hardly a benefit, if I would use RMAN. That's so, because of the unique (?) scenario I've got to deal with. If I just would need to backup Oracle, then RMAN would of course the way to go.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm only changing something, if there's a benefit. A perceived benefit. If you're different: Fine. Don't expect that anyone agrees, that changing such a basic thing just for the heck of it, is a good thing. It's not. Proven, reliable solutions are king. But that's just the difference between you and me.

> without actually reading the documentatiojn,

Wrong as well, as you very well know. How should I have read the docs to you, without having read it? I'm referring to the thread where you "helped" and I responded that what you wrote is not covered by the docs (the controlfile thing).

> without even
> trying out the workarounds presented to you,

And wrong again. As I've shown.

> without acknowledging you
> were, IIRC, not on the last release,

Man - can you get at least *one* thing right? I posted the version I was using. And anyone knows, that is not the latest on Solaris.

> which might help you out, etc,
> etc, etc.

Yep. "etc., etc., etc.". More of the same bullshit from you.

> So, IMO, actually you decided even before you started trying out RMAN,
> that is was not going to work.

Surprise: You're wrong again.

> This is the typical 'Not invented here'
> syndrome: I don't know how to use it, I don't want to *learn* how to
> use it: RMAN doesn't work for me.

I don't want to repeat myself, but you leave no choice: You're wrong.

> Instead of accepting a workaround, or upgrading, or submitting a
> Service Request,

How do you submit a SR, if you don't have support? And if you think you know that I didn't try to get in contact with Oracle: You're wrong again.

> you started riding a hobby horse, and you started
> flaming everyone who demonstrates RMAN actually does work.


> You are a typical example of the 'I know everything better'
> administrator,

I'm not like you.

> who didn't update his knowledge for years and has
> become a dinosaur, or worse:
> The combination of your lack of knowledge, and your arrogant attitude

I only deal arrogantly with you and Daniel, as both of you are such extremely arrogant persons.

> makes you an excellent example of a troll.

Says the troll.

> So, rest assured, as soon as you chime in 'RMAN doesn't work' which is
> just plain utter nonsense,as it does work for thousands of people,

I showed to you, that RMAN doesn't work.

> except for a troll called 'Alexander Skwar', I will continue to flame
> you.

Ah, so you actually admit to flame? That makes you the troll here, you know?

> You deserve no better, until you limit your baseless allegations to
> 'Regrettably RMAN didn't work for me'

Which is, what I've always done. I was of course always and ever just speaking for me. But don't let facts disturb your imagination.

> But better still of course you better get lost completely.

I think the same of you.

Alexander Skwar

Save gas, don't use the shell.
Received on Thu Aug 09 2007 - 01:10:19 CDT

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