Re: oracle server for learning purposes?

On Jul 22, 9:46 pm, HansF <fuzzy.greybe..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 9:14 pm, hjr.pyth..._at_gmail.com wrote:
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> > On Jul 23, 12:15 pm, HansF <fuzzy.greybe..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > [...]
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> > > However, I note that the license has a complete section on the
> > > rights. That has 3 major parts:
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> > > 1) What you are permitted to do
> > > 2) Who owns the Oracle softwarly
> > > 3) Confirmation of what you are permitted to do by giving specific
> > > exclusions, presumably as examples.
> > > Part 1 states "We grant you a nonexclusive, nontransferable limited
> > > license to use the programs only for the purpose of developing a
> > > single prototype of your application, and not for any other purpose."
> > > That "not for any other purpose" is pretty explicit.
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> > Well, as I said earlier and elsewhere, it's only pretty explicit if
> > you leave off the next sentence, where they clarify that it is the
> > commercial or production use of any application so prototyped that is
> > the issue. The inclusion of that second sentence actually seems to be
> > contradictory to the first, in fact, because it implicitly allows
> > other uses that the first sentence seeks to deny. That's bad drafting
> > and leaves the matter of 'explicit prohibition' up in the air.
>
> I disagree. The exact wording is
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> "If you use the application you develop under this license for any
> internal data processing or for any commercial or production purposes,
> or you want to use the programs for any purpose other than as
> permitted under this agreement, you must contact us, or an Oracle
> reseller, to obtain the appropriate license. ..."
>

On re-read, it's even clearer. That second sentence talks about two things:

1. The app that you prototyped - if it is to be used in any internal/ commercial/production way, you need to contact Oracle;
2. The database software provided by Oracle - if it is to be used for anything other than the permitted purpose (prototyping), you need to contact Oracle

The only thing that we can hope for is that which both you (Howard and Daniel) and I have already agreed on in various posts ... learning how to use the program (for example, by entering SQL commands) is a specific and acceptable form of prototyping. And the resulting application will never be deployed internally, commercially or in any form of production.

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