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From: DA Morgan <>
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:42:34 -0700
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Noons wrote:
> On Jul 16, 11:54 pm, DA Morgan <> wrote:

>> Noons wrote:
>>> it is COMPLETELY unacceptable that Oracle continues to
>>> deliver new releases without fixing first what are absolutely
>>> egregious bugs.
>>> Would you like me to publicly go into the details
>>> once more?  With pleasure.
>> I've got what I hope is a better idea ... send the list to me
>> describing how to test each and every one of them and I promise to
>> open an SR on any that are not fixed in 11g within one week.

> Let's see if google doesn't drop my reply now...
> Here is an even better idea:
> next time you feel like classing as incompetent
> any dba who refuses to install buggy rubbish over their
> running systems, why don't you do this:
> 1- go to Metalick and search for all bugs and patches
> for
> 2- count them.
> 3- check out how many are for problems with
> features first announced in 8ir3.
> 4- count them.
> 5- rinse and repeat for,,
> 9ir2 - various releases, 9ir1 - various releases.
> 6- count the years all those releases span.
> then stop and think: why is it that folks are SO
> reluctant to install new releases?

In your country perhaps. Here at least 60% of my customers are either in 10g or will be by year's end. Only a very small percentage are in or below.

Of those that haven't upgraded from 9i the main reason is the difficulty of upgrading eBS, Siebel, PeopleSoft, or other large apps. For those with 8i or below the main reason is government mandated certifications such as by the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) and FAA (Federal Aviation Administration).

In truth I can't think of a single company in this area: Not, not Boeing, not AT&T, not T-Mobile, not Bank of America, not Washington Mutual Bank, etc. etc. ad nauseum that would agree with your statement.

Maybe things are different in Oz but I've my doubts.

Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
Received on Mon Jul 16 2007 - 21:42:34 CDT

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