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Re: Career questions: databases

From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:00:59 -0300
Message-ID: <468a9cd5$0$4335$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net>


Bruce C. Baker wrote:

> "Cimode" <cimode_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:1183485424.196197.117760_at_o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> 

>>On 3 juil, 19:29, DA Morgan <damor..._at_psoug.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Marshall wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Jul 1, 11:55 am, DA Morgan <damor..._at_psoug.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>incompetent < mediocre < average < good < proficient < expert
>>>
>>>>>Most people, in any field of endeavor are average. That is the meaning
>>>>>of the word.
>>>
>>>>I see. So it is your contention then, that if I had a table of people
>>>>and their associated ability, rated according to your six point
>>>>scale above, and I wanted to know which these was the most
>>>>common, that I would use avg() to find out? Or is it perhaps
>>>>the case that "average" can mean different things, like,
>>>>say, "proficient" does?
>>>
>>>>>Daniel A. Morgan
>>>>>University of Washington
>>>>>damor..._at_x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
>>>>>Puget Sound Oracle Users Groupwww.psoug.org
>>>
>>>>It is amazing to me that someone who touts his association
>>>>with a university in every post appears to believe that
>>>>product training is the overarching technical accomplishment
>>>>that one might aspire to. Indeed, you don't even seem to
>>>>acknowledge the existence of any other kind of achievement.
>>>>Are we to assume that your role at the University of
>>>>Washington is that you are their DBA? Or should we
>>>>instead assume that a degree from the University of
>>>>Washington is designed to maximize one's investment
>>>>in Oracle products?
>>>
>>>>Shall you now challenge me to stand at a podium
>>>>and recite trivia? Can I choose my own area of
>>>>trivia, because I would prefer movies over Oracle
>>>>10g, since I enjoy the former and have no interest
>>>>in the latter. Certainly if I can tell you who starred
>>>>in this movie or that, or can recite backstage
>>>>anecdotes or quotes from interviews, it means
>>>>I have a tremendous aesthetic sense, right?
>>>>For what else is there in life but the memorization
>>>>of large numbers of accidental consequences
>>>>of man-made artifacts? Doctors, mathematicians,
>>>>scientists, etc., what good are they? The lawyer
>>>>is the only one who is truly proficient in understanding
>>>>the natural world.
>>>
>>>>Marshall
>>>
>>>It is my contention that words have meaning and that one
>>>can discern that meaning by looking into a book called a
>>>dictionary.
>>>--
>>>Daniel A. Morgan
>>>University of Washington
>>>damor..._at_x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
>>>Puget Sound Oracle Users Groupwww.psoug.org
>>
>>Looking at the entire sum of your posts, I neither understand the
>>points you are trying to make nor I qualify them as relevant to
>>database theory. It is safe to say that you have not posted so far
>>anything of inherent value that can not be found on an ORACLE
>>brochure.
>>
>>In other words, all you have established so far to Marshall and
>>several others here is a biased product driven perception of science.
>>I am curious as to what you are trying to achieve in doing that ?
> 
> Since it was originally my post that caused DA Morgan to offer his scale of 
> DBA abilities, let me come to his defense here (not that he really needs my 
> assistance): I suspect his mention of RMAN is a consequence of his posting 
> from within c.d.o.s, and not from any belief on his part that only Oracle 
> DBAs are "real DBAs" or that Oracle encompasses the totality of database 
> knowledge.
> 
> Take a step back, folks, and consider the context.

Frankly, the context doesn't change my evaluation of Morgan. Received on Tue Jul 03 2007 - 14:00:59 CDT

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