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Home -> Community -> Usenet -> c.d.o.server -> Re: Another oracle resource goes down the drain
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:31:16 -0700, Fuad wrote:
> Mladen,
> I do agree with you on some of the points for oracle-l. it is becoming
> overly populated by oversimilistic question. but i think that was what
> oracle-l was created for .to help people with oracle issues.
I don't think so. Oracle list was created as an information exchange for people professionally working with Oracle RDBMS. I should know, I was on the list much before Steve Adams. Now, the only posts made oracle professionals are the ones peddling the invitations for Hotsos dinners.
> i think the problem is and someone else pointed the same is too many
> people not taking the time to read or do the research before they
> actually post a question.
That is precisely the problem. Such attitude not only reflects mental laziness, it is also insulting to the people doing their job and trying to exchange something useful. One of the posts I snapped at was this:
DIANNA GIBBS <DIANNA.GIBBS_at_childrens.com> to oracle-l
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Apr 4 (3 days ago)
We need to set up a process where Oracle
users (currently few and mostly ODBC using Access) are notified
and can change their password dynamically every 90 days.
We were wondering what other companies do and any best practices? Any thoughts or comments appreciated.
Thanks.
Dianna G.
She got very insulted when I told her that other companies have DBA personnel capable of reading manuals and finding "create profile", a really new thing added in the version 7 of Oracle RDBMS.
She recently asked another stupid thing about the data format, so laziness and ignorance are now actually preferred on the oracle-l. They don't have a clue but they're polite and civil. If Adams was living in the states, he would have been a loyal Bushie, term recently invented by the rapping Rove.
> i've been guilty of that too . but with the proliferation of questions
> . the quality of questions has been hit.
Fuad, you're an old time member, together with Waleed Khedr, an excellent guy who no longer participates there. It is not about you. You are the one of the good guys.
> i get consultants all the time that try to tell me how to do my job
> just by reading some off of a list or reading some authors book adn
> saying hey that guy said that but not understanding the context of that
> person's text.i personally believe we should help people with their
> questions and then some.
That is why we have irony, sarcasm, ridicule and mockery. It usually works just fine. Unfortunately, the list moderator no longer has a career (the last modification of the IXORA site was in September 2001) so he decided to ruin the list for the rest of us, who were trying to get something useful from it. Here is the post detailing his philosophy:
This is just to clarify the situation. I have decided to suspended you from posting on oracle-l for 4 months. If after that time you agree to abide by the posting guidelines, and apologise to me and to the list community, then I will enable posting from your accounts again.
So if you do by some miracle ever have a change of heart, feel free to get back to me. Failing that, farewell. I wish you a very long life full of true love and human kindness. (I mean that; no kidding).
I didn't dignify that with an answer, I only asked him to stop spamming me. He reads this forum and that is why he is babbling about the apology. Of course, he doesn't have the courage to come out in the open and discuss things on the equal terms, he is a little totalitarian playing God on oracle-l. That is exactly why oracle-l has become such a boring and useless forum. Nobody expected Ozzie inquisition and he singlehandedly ruined once great list.
I will use his list as a trash bin. With the RTFM reply, the targeted party on this forum will get the directions how to subscribe to the oracle-l. Fortunately, this list has no administrator and I can do whatever I believe is right. That way we will both be happy with the oracle-l.
> and people need to understand that a question needs to have some merit
> for someone to even answer it.
> just my 2 cents.
The problem is in the volume. That list became one of the larger sources of spam in my mailbox, without hardly ever being useful.
-- http://www.mladen-gogala.comReceived on Sat Apr 07 2007 - 00:50:09 CDT
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