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Re: Advantages of Oracle on Windows over Unix

From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:00:53 -0800
Message-ID: <1169139650.453285@bubbleator.drizzle.com>


EscVector wrote:
> DA Morgan wrote:

>> HansF wrote:
>>
>>> Based on my personal experience, I'd say there are absolutely no
>>> advantages of running Oracle on WIndows over Oracle on Linux.  And
>>> absolutely none the other way 'round either.
>> I can give you one the other way 'round.
>>
>> Every experience I have had with Oracle RAC on Windows has involved
>> failovers that were within Oracle's published numbers but were
>> glacial. Take the same hardware, install RedHat 4 Update 2 and those
>> exact same failovers, on the exact same hardware, are subsecond.
>> --
>> Daniel A. Morgan
>> University of Washington
>> damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
>> (replace x with u to respond)
>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>> www.psoug.org

>
> Windows can be very powerful in the hands of a skilled admins. This
> means they know some scripting version, be it perl, vbscript, or other
> interface. It also means they know or are getting to know Powershell.
> They have skills with fsutil, OLD DB, ADO, HTA, WMI, ADOX, Dot Net,
> Server Resource Kits, Sysinternals (now Windows owned) tools. They
> should also know how to setup, or at least the reasons why a firewall
> and database DMZ is better than blanket virus scanning database
> servers. They should also be familiar with Cygwin and should know why
> running "DOS" (command shell) programs is not extensible or good for
> error handling. They should also know how to debug, non-paged pool
> error and what the paged/non-paged pool does and its limitations. They
> should use the command line more than the gui. They should understand
> server hardening. To date, I've only worked with 2 people like this,
> but my experience is limited to my geographic location. I know others
> are out there...
>
> Most Linux admins I know have a very good grasp on the OS parameters
> and live and breath shell scripting in some fashion, thus they have a
> higher level skill-set off the bat because it is usually required to
> keep the system secure, healthy and running.
>
> So, in my opinion, the Windows vs Linux debate is really one of entry
> point. Windows Admin entry point requires less high-end performance
> knowledge off the bat than does Linux or any other non-windows OS.
> This makes working with Linux easier for a non-sysadmin dba because the
> team has a higher skill-set. It also means that this knowledge gap on
> the Window side will usually only become apparent when there are
> performance problems that require an advanced Windows skill-set to
> solve. If all skill-sets are even, then I would say the race is about
> dead even on performance, for non-large-scale cluster/RAC systems and
> may be there soon even there.
> I have not run RAC on Windows so I'm going by what I've read.
>
> Here's a good blog link I like.
> http://ewhalen.blogspot.com/
> Other links:
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/fsutil.mspx?mfr=true
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/Scriptinga.asp

While I agree with 95% of what you wrote.

If that super Windows admin exists out there ... the one that can make Windows performance equivalent to that of *NIX ... he or she sure hasn't worked anywhere I've ever visited.

-- 
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org
Received on Thu Jan 18 2007 - 11:00:53 CST

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