Re: Survey...Please help and respond!!

From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:08:35 -0800
Message-ID: <1163264914.935835@bubbleator.drizzle.com>

Serge Rielau wrote:
> hpuxrac wrote:

>> DA Morgan wrote:
>>> hpuxrac wrote:
>>>> DA Morgan wrote:
>>>>> peteh wrote:
>>>>>> DA Morgan wrote:
>>>>>>> DB2 is being marginalized and won't be a serious player in 5-7 
>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>> LOL - guess this solves for good the mystery of what "DA" stands 
>>>>>> for...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pete H
>>>>> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/247276_software07.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Take away z/OS and AS400 and IBM's share is about the same as
>>>>> that of Informix or Sybase: In other words ... DB2 is being
>>>>> marginalized. In 5-7 years ... the current DB2 workforce will
>>>>> be retired. How many 20-30 year olds are learning DB2 today?
>>>>> How many colleges/universities are teaching DB2? How many
>>>>> private training companies support the product?
>>>> Who exactly noted that you could or should "Take away z/OS and AS400"?
>>> http://www.answers.com/topic/marginalization
>>> To relegate or confine to a lower or outer limit or edge, as of social
>>> standing.
>>>
>>> That's what the word means.
>>
>> Why are you attempting to hijack this thead?

> Maybe Daniel was hoping no IBMer would read this thread (and he was
> right until now).
> There has been a long history of marginalizing zOS and DB2 for zOS.
> After all the "dinosaur" has been said to be dead for a decade now.
> Just like Daniel claimed five years ago that IDS would not exist anymore
> within five years from then. So his visions are well known.
> Oracle likes to point to RDBMS business only and more specific to
> "modern" RDBMS (modern <> DB2 for zOS in their thinking).
>
> IBM claims that DB2 is not an RDBMS anymore. With pureXML it ahs become
> a "hybrid data server". So I agree that takes it out of where Oracle
> sees itself. In fact it opens up a completely new category.
> Perhaps Daniel also believes that high end data warehousing (like
> managing 160TB in a single database - no LOBs involved) is marginal.
> Fine by me, pays for a mortgage in Toronto.
>
> Oracle, SAP are already helping DB2. And it's working beautifully.
> Thanks!
> IBM's small part it in was to get out of apps when Oracle decided to get
> into apps.
>
> Cheers
> Serge

Actually I'd have been disappointed if you didn't read every one of my posts here just as I read yours in the DB2 group.

The primary difference is that you are on IBM's payroll and I don't work for Oracle: Never have ... likely never will.

-- 
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

Received on Sat Nov 11 2006 - 11:08:35 CST