Re: Survey...Please help and respond!!

From: Serge Rielau <srielau_at_ca.ibm.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:22:09 -0500
Message-ID: <4rm142Frf15rU1@mid.individual.net>

hpuxrac wrote:

> DA Morgan wrote:
>> hpuxrac wrote:
>>> DA Morgan wrote:

>>>> peteh wrote:
>>>>> DA Morgan wrote:
>>>>>> DB2 is being marginalized and won't be a serious player in 5-7 years.
>>>>> LOL - guess this solves for good the mystery of what "DA" stands for...
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete H
>>>> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/247276_software07.html
>>>>
>>>> Take away z/OS and AS400 and IBM's share is about the same as
>>>> that of Informix or Sybase: In other words ... DB2 is being
>>>> marginalized. In 5-7 years ... the current DB2 workforce will
>>>> be retired. How many 20-30 year olds are learning DB2 today?
>>>> How many colleges/universities are teaching DB2? How many
>>>> private training companies support the product?

>>> Who exactly noted that you could or should "Take away z/OS and AS400"?
>> http://www.answers.com/topic/marginalization
>> To relegate or confine to a lower or outer limit or edge, as of social
>> standing.
>>
>> That's what the word means.
> 
> Why are you attempting to hijack this thead?

Maybe Daniel was hoping no IBMer would read this thread (and he was right until now).
There has been a long history of marginalizing zOS and DB2 for zOS. After all the "dinosaur" has been said to be dead for a decade now. Just like Daniel claimed five years ago that IDS would not exist anymore within five years from then. So his visions are well known. Oracle likes to point to RDBMS business only and more specific to "modern" RDBMS (modern <> DB2 for zOS in their thinking).

IBM claims that DB2 is not an RDBMS anymore. With pureXML it ahs become a "hybrid data server". So I agree that takes it out of where Oracle sees itself. In fact it opens up a completely new category. Perhaps Daniel also believes that high end data warehousing (like managing 160TB in a single database - no LOBs involved) is marginal. Fine by me, pays for a mortgage in Toronto.

Oracle, SAP are already helping DB2. And it's working beautifully. Thanks!
IBM's small part it in was to get out of apps when Oracle decided to get into apps.

Cheers
Serge

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Serge Rielau
DB2 Solutions Development
IBM Toronto Lab

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Received on Sat Nov 11 2006 - 07:22:09 CST