Re: Could Mark Townsend please comment on this question re: Standard Edition

Charles Hooper wrote:
> hpuxrac wrote:
> > I just did an install of Oracle Standard Edition 10.2 on a linux centos
> > 4.3 machine and created a database.
> >
> > I did acknowledge thru OEM that I was aware of the license requirements
> > for the oracle packs ( configuration/diagnostic/tuning ).
> >
> > The database control comes up and yes indeed you can use the
> > Performance tab, ADDM, etc on the standard edition database.
> >
> > I am confused and referenced the documentation that Mark pointed out in
> > an earlier posting
> >
> > http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/license.102/b14199/toc.htm
> >
> > Now according to that document there is no way "EVER" that one can
> > license the packs for a standard edition database. Yet oracle installs
> > the packs and they function in the database control when you select
> > standard edition.
> >
> > Something is wrong here at least to me. Either you should be able to
> > license the packs for standard edition OR if you are not ever able to
> > do that, the oracle software install should have those disabled these
> > from the beginning with no way to ever turn on the functionality in a
> > standard edition database.
> >
> > Under the current situation, it appears to me as if oracle is not
> > acting in good faith for people that are installing standard edition.
> >
> > Is there some kind of implicit hinting by oracle that you can't
> > actually license them but we want you to go ahead and use them in
> > standard edition.
> >
> > If one were a little paranoid ( aren't all good dba's a little paranoid
> > ? ) then one might wonder if oracle might at some point audit certain
> > customers and ask them to pay for an upgrade to enterprise edition as
> > well as the cost of those packs if they detect that they have been
> > used.
> >
> > Something just doesn't seem right about this situation.
>
> I had the same experience with Oracle 10.2.0.2 Standard Edition on
> Windows 2003 x64. The first time you log in as SYSMAN, you are given
> the chance to disable the performance tuning pack and other features
> that should not be an option for Standard Edition licenses. Until you
> do so, you can accidentally/mistakenly access the extra cost features
> just by exploring the Enterprise Manager Database Control. No where
> did I see in the documentation that I should first log in as SYSMAN,
> and not as SYS or SYSTEM.
>

Thanks I wasn't aware of that wrinkle.

At the present time it seems like the first thing you "are supposed to do" with Standard Edition and the database control is to "rely on someone" to turn off these features before they are used.

If you turn them off from the database control I wonder if the grid control somewhere else can still access those features. That would also probably be something that there's no way to be properly licensed. Received on Wed Oct 11 2006 - 15:04:50 CDT