Re: Automatic Shared Memory Management needs Diagnostics Pack license?

Sybrand Bakker wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:26:14 -0700, DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
> wrote:
>
> >I am always amazed by people that ask license questions here: Not
> >every organization has the same license. And the opinion of other
> >users is totally irrelevant. We could render an opinion that is
> >correct today but be completely wrong tomorrow.
>
> I think you are right. But on the other hand the licensing structure
> of Oracle as outlined on the Oraclestore, as far as I can understand
> it, not being a native English speaker, is *EXTREEMLY DIFFICULT* to
> understand.
> What's more : if you talk to two *different reps*, you will likely get
> 2 *different answers*.
>
> And how do you license Management Packs if you need them for your
> customers? Do you need to pay for every individual CPU?
> The current answer of Oracle to this question is : YES.
> Did you ever try to find out what is in the default Grid Control
> without Management Packs (and how usuable it is, without Management
> Packs). You almost can't !
> Oracle is asking (on their store) €23500 per cpu for a single
> management pack, so it is a pretty relevant question.
>
>
> Also if you run a default install of Enterprise Edition, you may run
> into Oracle lawyers, because, although you don't even use it, you
> *installed* it. One of our customers was considered not 'compliant' by
> Oracle and they were threatened with a lawsuit, they are now
> considering changing to a different database because Oracle is too
> expensive.
>

There is no disagreement as to whether oracle has really messed up the licensing options and the consequences of trying to navigate thru "yet another" GUI for 10g. If you are a standard edition customer it gets even uglier even if you might want to pay.

Someone named Mark ( dunno last name ) who apparently was an oracle employee was going to try to get these types of messy implications straightened out.

What role was that guy in and has he made any progress in this area to date? Received on Fri Sep 29 2006 - 17:43:04 CDT