Re: No more Oracle Standard Edition for VMS

Dave Froble wrote:
> Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:
> > In article <u7v6hp3RVqqH_at_malvm9.mala.bc.ca>, nothome_at_spammers.are.scum
> > (Malcolm Dunnett) writes:
> >
> >> Perhaps I'm missing something, but my experience is that
> >> unless you're running huge databases where things like
> >> partitioning become critical there's not much need to
> >> use Enterprise Edition and that not having Standard
> >> edition available for VMS eliminates the feasibility of
> >> being able to use this rock-solid OS as an Oracle server
> >> platform unless you have very deep pockets.
> >
> > How much money and work would it be for you to move to Rdb?
> >
>
> I believe that earlier Malcolm state that they moved from RDB to Oracle
> Standard to save money. That Oracle charges the Enterprise Edition
> prices for RDB.
>
> I believe that selling RDB was one of DEC's biggest mistakes. With the
> prices DEC had for RDB, they could be very price competitive with Oracle
> on other platforms, or, force Oracle into a price war.

At the time, DEC was already going down. It was selling off the software pieces ("non-strategic operations") in a last-gasp effort to remain in the hardware business (or perhaps have a marketable entity to sell to another clueless hardware maker, to put a more positive speculative spin on their strategic thinking). I think it was less of a DEC mistake than a Larry coup. DEC had already made too many mistakes. 'Rdb business has been in a "modest decline,"...The deal is an example of DEC's previously announced strategy of focusing on core competencies':
http://calbears.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NEW/is_1994_Sept_2/ai_16229440

>
> DEC didn't need Oracle classic on VMS nearly as much as Oracle needed
> the price of RDB raised, by a factor of 5 if I remember correctly.

Phillipe Kahn was already saying "$100/seat" for any software, an idea that many found upsetting or ridiculous at the time. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.development.system/browse_thread/thread/98907520d6051f6d/ea052004b52e371f?lnk=st&q=%22phillipe+Kahn%22+author%3Agarry&rnum=2&hl=en#ea052004b52e371f

jg

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