Re: Oracle licence question

Ok, I'll take your original salary posting (and associated search) as a general mistake rather than trying to bias the stats by making a general search on Oracle and a more selective one for SQL Server DBA.

To explain, you posted these and the figures from them...

Oracle - http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/oracle.do SQL Server - http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/sql%20server%20dba.do

The search criteria you used is a give away because it's on the end of the URL. Note: you have done a general search on 'ORACLE' which includes all the lower paid dev and testing jobs, alternatively you searched on 'SQL SERVER DBA' which gives just the more skilled DBA jobs rather than the dev jobs - so, you should search 'ORACLE DBA' against 'SQL SERVER DBA' which is what I have posted, and the salary different is around 20% for permie and more for contractors.

So the modified URL you want is...

Oracle - http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/oracle%20dba.do SQL Server - http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/sql%20server%20dba.do

>> DBA...
>> Oracle Min/Max £40,073 £45,219
>> SQL Server Min/Max £36,128 £40,846

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"Mark Townsend" <markbtownsend_at_comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> Tony Rogerson wrote:

>>>What level is ANSI SQL compliance does Microsoft claim - can you provide 

>>>a citation ?

>>

>>

>> ANSI 92 - check Books Online.

>

> I did and I couldn't find the citation, which is why I asked you for it. I 

> want to check what level of ANSI compliance MS claims, to validate your 

> claim that their implementation of SQL is somehow more the ANSI standard 

> compliant than Oracle's. Note that Oracle does this at 

> http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14200/ap_standard_sql003.htm#i7719

>

> I'm looking for the MS corresponding compliance statement. Can you provide 

> a URL ?

>

>>

>>>Here's the published current salary costs of both sets of DBA's in the UK

>>>Oracle - http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/oracle.do

>>>SQL Server - http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/sql%20server%20dba.do

>>>

>>>There shows that there is less than a 3-13% differential between the min 

>>>and max salary ranges. Hardly a lot higher at all.

>>>

>>

>>

>> Very clever Mark, but I think you really want to compare like for like, 

>> so you ought to compare Oracle DBA with SQL Server DBA (like for like) 

>> and you get a more accurate result, if you compare 'oracle' with 'sql 

>> server' its even worse....

>>

>> DBA...

>>       Oracle Min/Max         £40,073 £45,219

>>

>>       SQL Server Min/Max £36,128 £40,846

>>

>>

>> Just search on product...

>>       £39,363 £46,026

>>

>>       SQL Server Min/Max    £33,665 £38,797

>>

>>

>> Thats a big difference!

>

>

> I did. The page references I gave you provide the following

>

> Min MAX

> Oracle 39,363 46,026

> SQL Server 36,128 40,846

>

> I'm not sure where you are getting some of your figures from

>

> The math is as follows

>

> Difference 8.95% 12.68%

>

> In the previous post, I did make a mistake in the maths with the low end. 

> So the range is 9-13% higher than SQL Server ranges. This is a higher, bit 

> is not substantially higher. And as I indicated, I believe that this is 

> because, on average, the Oracle DBAs are managing systems with more 

> mission critical requirements.

>

>>

>>

>>>http://www.theedison.com/research/gems/040401rdbmscmcs.pdf

>>

>>

>> I wonder who has commissioned the report? Looking at the detailed tasks 

>> it starts to get a bit interesting and bias toward Oracle starts to be 

>> shown, for instance; the set up and seperate service pack installation - 

>> counted as one and not broken down - mmmm.

>>

>> I await the next report with interested and will also look for more bias, 

>> perhaps I will download your trial and try it for myself and write up the 

>> results as a whitepaper of my own!

>

> Please do. Feel free to bring your own bias to the party. We have admired 

> your constraint in not doing so so far.

>