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Re: Oracle licence question

From: Jim Kennedy <jim>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:04:21 -0800
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"Tony Rogerson" <tonyrogerson_at_sqlserverfaq.com> wrote in message news:dtrqsr$ocv$1$830fa79d_at_news.demon.co.uk...
> > eweek did a comparison of the two (albeit Enterprise Editions) just
> > recently
>
> I don't tend to read stuff like that, I can just as easily find articles
> that put SQL Server in a good light rather than Oracle, awards its won
> etc... but they are all opinions of authors rather than people who
actually
> use the kit. It suprised me that some of the newer features - report
> builder, changes to the BI suite aren't even mentioned which says it all
> about that particular article....
>
> > Database mirroring isn't shipping yet, right ?
> >
>
> Its shipping but not supported yet until SP1, but that doesn't stop you
> using other stuff like clustering (which is in workgroup and standard
> editions) or peer to peer replication, log shipping of your own....

I have used log shipping and it is prone to problems. You have to basically freeze the database (source) and send it to the target. You have to be careful applying logs, SS doesn't seem to be able to know what order to apply logs in. (which seems rather silly, it should know the order) Jim
>
> > The price for Oracle Standard Edition One on a dual core machine is
$4995
> > US or 2902 GBP.
>
> Is that for unlimited users though? Because its dual-core (2 CPU's) I
should
> add another 75% to that price?
>
> Check out http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/15/oracle_core_pricing/
which
> sums it up nicely.
> And it gets even more complicated! A sharp Register reader forwards this
> advisory from Oracle's finer print:
>
> "A multicore chip with 11 cores would require a 9 processor license (11
> multiplied by a factor of .75 equals 8.25 which is then rounded up to the
> next whole number which is 9)."
>
> What I really wanted is something that lists features I get in Oracle
> Standard so I can compare that against SQL Server standard, which, is the
> whole point of my reply to DA - I'd rather not he pass on yet another myth
> from his marketing list.
> --
> Tony Rogerson
> SQL Server MVP
> http://sqlserverfaq.com - free video tutorials
>
>
>
> "Mark Townsend" <markbtownsend_at_comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:4400F1A7.3090701_at_comcast.net...
> > Tony Rogerson wrote:
> >>>Sorry this is pure nonsense. I've yet to see a single example, in
recent
> >>>years, of Oracle being more expensive than SQL Server. In fact I think
> >>>the exact opposite is true.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> I've searched for a comparison of features between SQL Server 2005
> >> (Workgroup, Standard, Enterprise) and Oracle Standard and I don't seem
to
> >> be able to find it - can you supply a URL for us to go visit.
> >
> > eweek did a comparison of the two (albeit Enterprise Editions) just
> > recently
> >
> > SQLServer - http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1894609,00.asp
> > Oracle - http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1618793,00.asp
> >
> > "However, by making management more complex, Microsoft has discarded the
> > one significant advantage it had over Oracle Database 10g and IBM's
> > DB2-ease of administration. This makes DB2 and Oracle Database 10g look
> > all the more attractive for their broader choice of development
> > frameworks, management interfaces, and server hardware and operating
> > systems."
> >
> > This doc identifies the differences between the Oracle Standard and
> > Enterprise Editions -
> >

http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/oracle10g/pdf/twp_general_10gdb_product_family.pdf
> >
> >
> >>
> >> It would appear for £2,000 per physical processor (that means you pay
for
> >> one even though its dual core) for the workgoup edition more than meets
> >> most company needs, you also have a free hot standby via database
> >> mirroring, log shipping or clustering (in workgroup edition), I can't
> >> seem to work out the Oracle price but for a 2 proc machine (dual core
for
> >> instance) it starts to get silly.
> >
> > Database mirroring isn't shipping yet, right ?
> >
> > The price for Oracle Standard Edition One on a dual core machine is
$4995
> > US or 2902 GBP.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I doubt you'll reply with facts, more like a rant - but its worth a
try.
> >>
> >
>
>
Received on Sun Feb 26 2006 - 11:04:21 CST

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