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Re: Database or store to handle 30 Mb/sec and 40,000 inserts/sec

From: hpuxrac <johnbhurley_at_sbcglobal.net>
Date: 20 Feb 2006 10:21:16 -0800
Message-ID: <1140459676.273143.242040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>


Noons wrote:
> Tony Rogerson wrote:
> >
> > The impression I'm taking away is that Oracle coders shoe horn the business
> > requirement to suit their engine rather than implementing the correct
> > isolation level inline with the business requirement following the
> > isolations available in the ANSI SQL standard - do you guys actually
> > implement much of that?
> >
>
> You see, Tony: this is where you show your bias
> and your complete lack of historical perspective and knowledge.
>
> Oracle has always supported a readers-do-not-block-writers
> model. Always. Period.
> Most other so-called competitive "relational" database
> implementations never did. Never. Period.
>
> Before I get the usual cohort of "we support it" camels:
> I said "MOST". I did not say "ALL". Learn to read and
> lay off,OK! But, I digress:
>
>
> Therefore, the ANSI mob - as usual - had to invent the
> "isolation level" rubbish in order to explain away and validate
> the other inferior implementations. ANSI gave up technical
> correctness in exchange for vendor pandering about 15 years
> ago. Money talks...
>
> Just remember this: the ANSI isolation level "standard" came
> into place 20 years AFTER Oracle had supported the correct
> isolation level.
>
>
> There is NO SUCH THING as a business "requirement"
> to see uncomitted data and there never has been.
> It's totally bogus and a pile of bullshit of the highest order.
>
>
> What there is is the need to make some inferior products
> "look good". And hence the whole "isolation level" load
> of crap.
>
>
> If you doubt it, just ask yourself why is it that it's products
> that fully support read-committed and readers-don't-block-writers
> that get chosen TIME AFTER TIME, to support mission critical
> applications in the military, banks, OLTP, online markets,
> etcetc. Hint,hint?
>
>
> So please: take your "isolation levels", shove them wherever
> it is the Microslop sun doesn't shine and leave us alone
> with our "bigotry", OK? We've been doing incredibly well
> with it and don't intend to change just because Billy-boy
> says so.
>
>
> Because quite frankly, your whole approach to this subject is
> incredibly "ho-hum, another marketing bullshitter" for those of
> us who have been around a little bit longer than the latest burst
> of sunshine off BG's arse.
>

Well geez let's not try to bring some perspective and a reality check into this flame war! Received on Mon Feb 20 2006 - 12:21:16 CST

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