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Re: Overcoming objections to Oracle

From: D Baldwin <>
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:05:56 -0700
Message-ID: <cybgf.5332$xu.3609@fed1read01>

" I can't think of a single bank ... not BofA, not Washington Mutual, etc. that is not an Oracle shop."

Wells Fargo is also an Oracle shop, a friend of mine just went to work for them.

Dana Baldwin
Intel DBA

"DA Morgan" <> wrote in message news:1132523131.772995_at_yasure...
> Edwin Greene wrote:
> > I recently took a job as an IT manager for a financial institution in
> > the United States. I will be acting as the senior project manager until
> > I get a feel for things, and then I will take over as the departmental
> > head. The current departmental head is a semi-paranoid multivalue zealot
> > who has done an excellent job of making this organization utterly
> > dependent upon him. He has been described by his collegues as a despot.
> > He justifies his obscene salary by pointing to the lack of multivalue
> > programmers in our area. Recently, some critical data simply
> > "disappeared" from our database. More likely it was accidentally lost as
> > a result my colleague's poor programming, but I digress.
> >
> > At my former position, which was also a financial institution, we used
> > Oracle. I am not a DBA, but I do know that oracle is very good at what
> > it does. In six years, we never had a single major incident. Most
> > likely, this was due to our oustanding Oracle team. Obviously, I want to
> > migrate this organization to Oracle too. Of course, it will be a huge
> > task that will take years, but considering the subservient position the
> > senior leadership is in because of this common bad IT situation, it's
> > the best choice.
> >
> > How can I overcome the classic arguments about the benefits of
> > multivalue over SQL? I am quite aware that Oracle can be just as fast,
> > but how do I couch this in terms that will be agreeable to the senior
> > management? They have spent the last ten years under the impression that
> > no scalability, frequent outages and disappearing data are the norm and
> > unavoidable on any platform.
> >
> > I could really use some help from the experts here. Thanks very much
> > for any guidance you can offer.
> Assuming you are in the US, Japan or Western Europe the first thing you
> should be thinking if in the banking industry is complying with required
> laws. (If US) are you compliant with SarbOx? How about FACTA? How about
> all of the other regs? I can't think of a single bank ... not BofA, not
> Washington Mutual, etc. that is not an Oracle shop.
> There is zero excuse for any bank not being up 7x24 with fully redundant
> systems. I've worked with several of the majors and not once have I ever
> heard of the situation you are stating being tolerated.
> Contact me off-line.
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan
> (replace x with u to respond)
Received on Sun Nov 20 2005 - 22:05:56 CST

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