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Re: MYDUL avaialbe for recovery, another choise of DUL.

From: Joel Garry <>
Date: 29 Sep 2005 11:37:28 -0700
Message-ID: <> wrote:
> There is no licensing pertaining to the use of 10046 traces.

??? How do run a 10046 trace without running Oracle? How do you run Oracle legally without accepting a license?

> There are a number of things available on MetaLink that are not
> documented anywhere else by Oracle, but you are free to use them.
> Scripts, papers, howto papers, etc.
> They may not be supported (use them at your own risk, don't open a TAR
> asking how to use it, etc), but they are placed there to use.

I've driven cars at, um, over 75 mph on the highway. Does that mean I've violated my driving license privilege? The government placed the road there for me to use!

The point wrt Oracle is, the licensing and laws involved would prevent people from doing normal things if followed precisely. That is because they are written by lawyers to have a strong position in any possible case. What is lacking is law to protect the other side (that would be us programmers and users). Beyond that, I think there should be compulsion for software vendors to guarantee software do what it claims. But that's just me.

I just used OEM to see:

SELECT property, intcol

    FROM sys.exu8ccl
    WHERE cno = :1
    ORDER BY colno

Guess what! I'm seeing something from an Oracle binary! Because I'm far too lazy to bother with a 10046 trace for something so simple. I'm explicitly violating my license! neener, neener Oracle!

Well, it's not really my license, it belongs to somebody else... and Oracle says they don't have a contract because the license is really with another vendor. Oh wait, they don't exist anymore. And somebody else _is_ giving money to Oracle for the license. But Oracle can keep the money and say there is no support. Right?


-- is bogus.
Freke Dorothy Fluck Lane
Received on Thu Sep 29 2005 - 13:37:28 CDT

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