Path: dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu!spool.maxwell.syr.edu!drn.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:24:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Mark C. Stock" From: "Mark C. Stock" Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle.server References: <1126638273.916921.245530@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126695211.482075.7070@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126711827.545598@yasure> <1126755534.274708@yasure> <1126770402.682519.241640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126797392.186999@yasure> Subject: Re: Career Advise - Database Management Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:24:25 -0400 Organization: Enquery, Incorporated X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: Lines: 59 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.57.99.188 X-Trace: sv3-Mr0maDw5sQqhYNImauzXVhqjndx7TR3HMUECoPVXaFGFoY4xdpdm1NOE5PmgWR1FxEF4m1jmgsfSBMG!mQm1Hrs9eVdqfwJ/dqIE4KY/8D4gaoIRSnPm9yZxxwGLoWWlnxBoC0TgKuOVC9akdKkxOMtf2FaE!3g== X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Xref: dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu comp.databases.oracle.server:251607 "DA Morgan" wrote in message news:1126797392.186999@yasure... > Noons wrote: >> DA Morgan wrote: >> >>>Mark C. Stock wrote: >>> >>> >>>>corporate instructor lead training goes for from $420 up to $550 or more >>>>per >>>>seat per day these days -- so at the low-end, $6k would covers about 14 >>>>days >>>>at 'standard' rates -- some 'boot camp' courses are listed for $9,495 >>>>for 14 >>>>days, including meals and accomodations >>> >>>On the basis that no one is going to apply for a Visa and move to the >>>US because I post this I will speak from experience. >>> >>>University of Washington Oracle program: 9 months: Less than $2,000. >>> >>>Puget Sound Oracle Users Group: all day hands-on classes with each >>>student getting their own server: ~$450/day. >>> >>>$6,000 for an OCP course is outrageous. >> >> >> I've said it many times here and in other places: >> the ONLY thing OCP has achieved is to make a lot of >> companies providing this kind of service very, very rich. >> >> Talk about giving Oracle an aura of very high TCO, >> difficult to learn product: 6 grand! What a joke! >> >> Can't someone at Oracle SEE they're shooting themselves >> in the foot with this ludicrous thing and just PUT AN END >> to it? It's been going on long enough. What a crock... > > I fully agree with the aspect of this you have raised here first. > This kind of nonsense makes Oracle, as a corporation, look bad. > It gives the definite impression that Oracle is hard to use, hard > to learn, and expensive far beyond the cost of the software itself. > > Far from being useful this kind of white-collar thievery hurts > Oracle and reinforces the Microsoft/SQL Server marketing message. > -- > Daniel A. Morgan > http://www.psoug.org > damorgan@x.washington.edu > (replace x with u to respond) excuse me... a brief google for MS-SS certification programs (MCDBA) came up with a 460 hour program (gatlin education services). i don't think this is an oracle-only issue ++ mcs