Re: Becoming ORACLE DBA

From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:41:01 -0700
Message-ID: <1120412475.615002@yasure>

Mark A wrote:

>>A good UNIX SA can learn Windows in a week or two. A good Windows SA
>>may be incapable of learning vi.
>>

>
> You can't be serious.

I am.

> Anyone can learn vi.

Pick the date you would like to come to Seattle. I'll give you a shot at actually teaching a room full of Windows users. You are in for a very rude surprise.

> A DBA doesn't need to an expert at it, because for heavy duty use it
> is easy to edit in Windows cleint and ftp the files back and forth.

Irrelevant to my point.

>>Not an exaggeration at all if you paid attention to the context of the
>>answer. I didn't say it was required to do the job. I said it was
>>required before I'd consider hiring them.

>
> Giagantic copout.

No: Fact!

>>And in almost all Oracle shops is not done by the DBA assuming the
>>acronym stands for "DataBase Administrator" as opposed to "DataBase
>>Architect."

>
> I don't agree with that. The architect does the logical model, but the DBA
> is expected to do the physical design, adn infact has complete control over
> it from an persmissions point of veiw.

And you have how much experience in Oracle shops?

> I never said that a DBA can have mediocre technical skills. But 3 years
> experience as a UNIX admin is nice to have, but not necessary in my opinion.

And you have how much experience in Oracle shops?

> There are usually different roles that DBA's assume in a shop, and typically
> there is not one person who is an expert at everything.

And you have how much experience in Oracle shops?

> I personally think it is a lot easier to learn UNIX and vi than to learn how to
> create a good physical database design. I prefer a application development
> background,

And what does that have to do with the job of an Oracle DBA? In most cases nothing!

Trying to kludge your experience in IBM's DB2 in Oracle is leading you to invalid assumptions.

-- 
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
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Received on Sun Jul 03 2005 - 12:41:01 CDT