Re: RAC on Mac News

hpuxrac wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> > Give the guy a bit of leeway.
> >
> > He constantly answers questions here and is one of the major
> > contributors to this group. As he has pointed out, there is nothing
> > promotional in the stuff he posted.
> >
> >
> > I agree that there is a "fine line" between promotion and spam, but
I
> > don't believe that Daniel has crossed it. *_Maybe_* if it was from
> > some unknown, posts about spamming might have a point - at the
moment
> > they don't!
> >
>
> My opinion only.
>
> The IOUG is the big cheese of oracle user groups. Lots of different
> people belong to various member groups that are associated with the
> IOUG.
>
> I don't see anyone except Mr. Morgan on this newsgroup aggressively
> pushing any of the many good user groups that are out there.

I belong to three user groups in addition to IOUG. Unfortunately, I only feel that one of the three is good, and none have a real equivalent to the psoug website. I don't push any, since they are local and this group is worldwide, although I might post something if I thought people might be interested.

>
> Many of us feel that the IOUG does a good job of promoting itself and
> the various member goups have responsibility in their areas in that
> regard.
>
> Does Mr. Morgan receive any financial compensation for activities
> related to the psoug such as teaching classes?
>
> If so then promoting those classes via this newsgroup benefits him
> materially and is in my mind fits into the category of marketplace
> related postings that do not belong in this newsgroup.
>
> Does Mr. Morgan ever supply contact information for his own
consulting
> efforts to students or members of the psoug?
>
> Outside of the IOUG related groups, do we see anyone else in this
> newsgroup who aggressively pushes oracle classes such as workforce
> partners at community colleges?

I think the advocacy of it is reasonable for this group.

>
> Are there people who are members of the various IOUG member groups
> and/or who teach oracle classes either directly for oracle education
or
> for workforce partners who also participate in this newsgroup who
> refrain from the types of aggressive promotion that Mr. Morgan
> repeatedly engages in? You bet there are.

I don't think Daniel should "take his own medicine," as he put it. I'd like to see a discussion of the merits of RAID-5 on Apple hardware here.

I think we should be consistent in the rules, and not rule out, say, JLK Lewis or Cary Milsap from promoting their wares, as long as it is in the context of interesting discussion. And I think Daniel should be able to start such a discussion. I realize that is a minority viewpoint here at this time, and that vigilance in defense against spam is no vice.

I get the idea that some of the posts in this thread are more about getting back at Daniel for his anti-spam postings than really being against what he posted. But that is the lesser of my concerns. The greater concern is I see a cliquishness fragmenting the information resources - one must be part of a club, and know what bbs/blog/website's are hot. That's fun for a while, but it gets old when you just want to find stuff out.

jg

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